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RE: Literal and Not Literal
September 3, 2019 at 3:22 am
(September 3, 2019 at 3:19 am)Belaqua Wrote: No, the opposite. If people find a thing holy, then we are reasonable to use the word "holy."
How are we to know which definition they are using though?
(September 3, 2019 at 3:19 am)Belaqua Wrote: Vast numbers of people do think that these books are the divine word of god. They are wrong because there is no god.
But wait a minute, you just said if people find a thing holy, we're reasonable to use the word holy. What if by holy, they mean divine?
(September 3, 2019 at 3:19 am)Belaqua Wrote: People sometimes continue things because it's tradition. I've never said it's good to continue something because it's tradition. If it's a good thing to do, then it's probably a good thing to continue. As I said before, there are good traditions and bad traditions.
Good job.
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RE: Literal and Not Literal
September 3, 2019 at 3:23 am
(September 3, 2019 at 3:22 am)EgoDeath Wrote: (September 3, 2019 at 3:19 am)Belaqua Wrote: No, the opposite. If people find a thing holy, then we are reasonable to use the word "holy."
How are we to know which definition they are using though?
(September 3, 2019 at 3:19 am)Belaqua Wrote: Vast numbers of people do think that these books are the divine word of god. They are wrong because there is no god.
But wait a minute, you just said if people find a thing holy, we're reasonable to use the word holy. What if by holy, they mean divine?
(September 3, 2019 at 3:19 am)Belaqua Wrote: People sometimes continue things because it's tradition. I've never said it's good to continue something because it's tradition. If it's a good thing to do, then it's probably a good thing to continue. As I said before, there are good traditions and bad traditions.
Good job.
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RE: Literal and Not Literal
September 3, 2019 at 7:33 am
(September 3, 2019 at 2:14 am)Fierce Wrote: I do not need evidence something does not exist. I need evidence something does exist. If there is no evidence for its existence, I will not believe in its existence and I will thereby reasonably claim to know it does not exist.
The logic really is that simple.
So your belief that God is imaginary is based on no evidence?
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RE: Literal and Not Literal
September 3, 2019 at 7:50 am
(September 3, 2019 at 7:33 am)Acrobat Wrote: So your belief that God is imaginary is based on no evidence?
My belief that god is imaginary is based on the lack of evidence for his existence.
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RE: Literal and Not Literal
September 3, 2019 at 9:23 am
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(September 3, 2019 at 7:50 am)Fierce Wrote: (September 3, 2019 at 7:33 am)Acrobat Wrote: So your belief that God is imaginary is based on no evidence?
My belief that god is imaginary is based on the lack of evidence for his existence.
So not based on how religion developed, and came about, or the nature of religious beliefs.
So I take it when you accuse others like myself, of a holding a beliefs that imaginary you have no evidence to support this.
So we can just dismiss it as baseless, you claim my beliefs are imaginary based on no evidence, entirely unsupported by any evidence.
I’ll keep that in mind.
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RE: Literal and Not Literal
September 3, 2019 at 9:40 am
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(September 3, 2019 at 9:23 am)Acrobat Wrote: So not based on how religion developed, and came about, or the nature of religious beliefs.
So I take it when you accuse others like myself, of a holding a beliefs that imaginary you have no evidence to support this.
Religion developed in the mind of man, came about by needing the question of his origin answered, and ever since the nature of those imaginative beliefs has been worshiped by the ignorant masses seeking their opiates.
The answers I provided are anthropologically sound and can be discovered by learning the history of religion.
When I encounter a theist, I understand that s/he prefers the delusion that religious faith provides.
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RE: Literal and Not Literal
September 3, 2019 at 9:59 am
It would be surprising if a Christian -didn’t- point to something as evidence for their god.
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RE: Literal and Not Literal
September 3, 2019 at 10:06 am
(September 3, 2019 at 9:59 am)Gae Bolga Wrote: It would be surprising if a Christian -didn’t- point to something as evidence for their god.
And it is well known that the theistic definition of evidence is relational to gullibility.
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RE: Literal and Not Literal
September 3, 2019 at 10:10 am
(September 3, 2019 at 9:23 am)Acrobat Wrote: (September 3, 2019 at 7:50 am)Fierce Wrote: My belief that god is imaginary is based on the lack of evidence for his existence.
So not based on how religion developed, and came about, or the nature of religious beliefs.
So I take it when you accuse others like myself, of a holding a beliefs that imaginary you have no evidence to support this.
So we can just dismiss it as baseless, you claim my beliefs are imaginary based on no evidence, entirely unsupported by any evidence.
I’ll keep that in mind.
No. We have evidence that you have no evidence. You made the claim. We need evidence from you in order not to dismiss your claim. You failed to either produce evidence or withdraw the claim. So we stand by the claim that you claim without evidence. Our evidence is you.
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RE: Literal and Not Literal
September 3, 2019 at 12:12 pm
(September 3, 2019 at 10:10 am)Anomalocaris Wrote: (September 3, 2019 at 9:23 am)Acrobat Wrote: So not based on how religion developed, and came about, or the nature of religious beliefs.
So I take it when you accuse others like myself, of a holding a beliefs that imaginary you have no evidence to support this.
So we can just dismiss it as baseless, you claim my beliefs are imaginary based on no evidence, entirely unsupported by any evidence.
I’ll keep that in mind.
No. We have evidence that you have no evidence. You made the claim. We need evidence from you in order not to dismiss your claim. You failed to either produce evidence or withdraw the claim. So we stand by the claim that you claim without evidence. Our evidence is you.
The willingness of theists to shift the burden of proof is infinitely bigger than the ability to do so. Its one of the few fundamental things i have learned in the past few years on boards like this.
The willingness to verbally bend over backwards, signalling how intellctually dishonest and bancrupt this effort is, is mindblowing.
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