There's going to be a cloud of drones over cities anyway for commercial reasons, pretty soon. It'll be like CCTV cameras for ATMs and stores, if three's a crime, part of the investigation will be to obtain and review drone footage.

I wouldn't oppose anything like that for reasons of privacy, it might be excessive for a city though. You're already on camera near enough everywhere you go in a city plus there's dash cams in a lot of cars.

(September 15, 2019 at 2:13 am)AFTT47 Wrote: In an ideal world, I'd be all for it. In the real world, I would be very concerned about abuse.

We need oversight of all agencies with this kind of power - and we don't have it. So for the present time, count me as opposed.

I have to second this notion. The whole idea that "you should only be worried if you're doing something wrong" is exactly the type of idea that an oppressive government would want you to hold.

Privacy is slowly but surely going away, I don't think we need to add more to the mix.

(September 17, 2019 at 6:10 am)EgoDeath Wrote:

(September 15, 2019 at 2:13 am)AFTT47 Wrote: In an ideal world, I'd be all for it. In the real world, I would be very concerned about abuse.

We need oversight of all agencies with this kind of power - and we don't have it. So for the present time, count me as opposed.

I have to second this notion. The whole idea that "you should only be worried if you're doing something wrong" is exactly the type of idea that an oppressive government would want you to hold.

Privacy is slowly but surely going away, I don't think we need to add more to the mix.

You can't demand privacy in public places. Photographers can photograph you (in the US) if you're leaning out of your apartment window.

(September 17, 2019 at 6:17 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: You can't demand privacy in public places. Photographers can photograph you (in the US) if you're leaning out of your apartment window.

In the past, there was more expectation of privacy than there is now. And that very small bubble is getting smaller.

That doesn't mean we should happily invite new methods of government surveillance.

(September 17, 2019 at 7:23 am)EgoDeath Wrote: That doesn't mean we should happily invite new methods of government surveillance.

I never said anything like that.

And in the past people thought they had privacy in public places. They thought other stupid things as well.

(September 17, 2019 at 7:38 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:

(September 17, 2019 at 7:23 am)EgoDeath Wrote: That doesn't mean we should happily invite new methods of government surveillance.

I never said anything like that.

And in the past people thought they had privacy in public places. They thought other stupid things as well.

They had more privacy than now.

(September 17, 2019 at 8:04 am)EgoDeath Wrote:

(September 17, 2019 at 7:38 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: I never said anything like that.

And in the past people thought they had privacy in public places. They thought other stupid things as well.

They had more privacy than now.

Really? Anybody can observe you in a public place. Go to Times Square on New Year's Eve and count the number of people who see you there.

(September 17, 2019 at 8:18 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:

(September 17, 2019 at 8:04 am)EgoDeath Wrote: They had more privacy than now.

Really? Anybody can observe you in a public place. Go to Times Square on New Year's Eve and count the number of people who see you there.

So in your mind the addition of tens of millions of security cameras doesn't reduce privacy?

You're still in a public place, sure. But a camera recording your every move when you park your car in an empty lot is different than parking your car in an empty lot with no one looking or a camera recording you.

You dodged my point. There are a lot more people than there are cameras. You have zero privacy in public. Drones didn't change that.