God does stuff, and has done stuff.  We're told this constantly.

Why?  What could possibly motivate such a being to create or do anything?  God knows everything and can do everything.  God is complete and unchanging.  How could such a being possibly have any motivation whatsoever? 

Boru

It can't. That's the problem with giving it those attributes. To be motivated it would have to have some sort of ultimate goal in mind but be unaware of the outcome of the goal it has set. So yeah, it can't, that is, if it's omni-everything.

Some theologians, in fact, argue that God doesn't do anything.

Nevertheless, I agree with the point you're making, Brian.

(October 16, 2019 at 6:53 am)Grandizer Wrote: Some theologians, in fact, argue that God doesn't do anything.

Nevertheless, I agree with the point you're making, Brian.

I'm perfectly happy to accept that God doesn't do anything. 

Boru

(October 16, 2019 at 5:43 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: God does stuff, and has done stuff.  We're told this constantly.

Why?  What could possibly motivate such a being to create or do anything?  God knows everything and can do everything.  God is complete and unchanging.  How could such a being possibly have any motivation whatsoever? 

Boru

Itchy balls?

God apparently got bored after all that creatin' and subsequent destroyin'.

If he actually still did anything I would hope he would send a plague of frogs or a bolt of lightning to the White House.

(October 16, 2019 at 5:43 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: God does stuff, and has done stuff.  We're told this constantly.

Why?  What could possibly motivate such a being to create or do anything?  God knows everything and can do everything.  God is complete and unchanging.  How could such a being possibly have any motivation whatsoever? 

Boru

I think you already know the answer to this.

Different Christians believe different things. Those things are sometimes incompatible.

Ken Ham thinks that God has motivations.

Paul Tillich thinks that God is the motivation.

(October 16, 2019 at 6:48 pm)Belaqua Wrote:

(October 16, 2019 at 5:43 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: God does stuff, and has done stuff.  We're told this constantly.

Why?  What could possibly motivate such a being to create or do anything?  God knows everything and can do everything.  God is complete and unchanging.  How could such a being possibly have any motivation whatsoever? 

Boru

I think you already know the answer to this.

Different Christians believe different things. Those things are sometimes incompatible.

Ken Ham thinks that God has motivations.

Paul Tillich thinks that God is the motivation.

I don't think he is asking what the dimwits think.   He is asking whether there is any thinking at all on these subjects that can possibly not be dismissed out of hand as being from dimwits. 

BTW, that was nice way to not answer the question but to take the opportunity to put on an impressively sincere affectation of breadth of counterfeit knowledge, by way of insinuating a vast depth of make belief profundity.

(October 16, 2019 at 6:48 pm)Belaqua Wrote:

(October 16, 2019 at 5:43 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: God does stuff, and has done stuff.  We're told this constantly.

Why?  What could possibly motivate such a being to create or do anything?  God knows everything and can do everything.  God is complete and unchanging.  How could such a being possibly have any motivation whatsoever? 

Boru

I think you already know the answer to this.

Different Christians believe different things. Those things are sometimes incompatible.

Ken Ham thinks that God has motivations.

Paul Tillich thinks that God is the motivation.

Ken Ham “thinks” the world is 6000 years old, that Noah’s flood actually happened and there were dinosaurs on a rudderless boat.

He also believes that he is entitled to break the law thanks to his beliefs.

Paul Tillich I’ve heard of but don’t know enough about to comment on.

(October 16, 2019 at 6:56 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: Ken Ham “thinks” the world is 6000 years old, that Noah’s flood actually happened and there were dinosaurs on a rudderless boat.

He also believes that he is entitled to break the law thanks to his beliefs.

Paul Tillich I’ve heard of but don’t know enough about to comment on.

I agree that Ken Ham is a dummy. I hope that if I mention a name it isn't always taken as an endorsement!