Mr. Potato Head:
It's a badge of honor when an evotard losses his cool and succumbs to rage, lol

This is rich. Perhaps you have a different definition of the word honor. 
Honesty, honor, integrity, all foreign concepts to a cockroach such as yourself.

Once again, your utter lack of intelligence prevails.

Quote:https://telliamedrevisited.wordpress.com...g-up-shop/

Richard Lenski mocking creationists like Jack

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(December 30, 2019 at 12:59 am)no one Wrote: Mr. Potato Head:
It's a badge of honor when an evotard losses his cool and succumbs to rage, lol

This is rich. Perhaps you have a different definition of the word honor. 
Honesty, honor, integrity, all foreign concepts to a cockroach such as yourself.

Once again, your utter lack of intelligence prevails.

Pretty much this

(December 29, 2019 at 10:06 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote:

(December 29, 2019 at 9:46 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: Do you believe god created life on earth, John?

I just told you I believe monkeys created the universe. It's implied that they created life on earth as well. And I also admitted I have no support for it.

That's a silly, very stupid stance.  FSM created all you see. Soon it will be too late to ask for forgiveness.

RAmen

(December 30, 2019 at 12:56 am)The Valkyrie Wrote: I’ve been reading through this thread for ages both laughing and shaking my head at the creationists.

Everything we see in their responses is the same shit we read everywhere else.

They have no originality and just regurgitate what they have read on creationist websites.

If ignorance is bliss, being a creationist must be Nirvana itself.

This as well

(December 30, 2019 at 12:09 am)Yukon_Jack Wrote:

(December 29, 2019 at 8:14 pm)Alex K Wrote: It would have been quite astonishing if an experiment on E. coli would have yielded fruit flies after a few years.
But joking aside, no one reasonably expects having a box of bacteria who do their thing for a few years change into something radically different such as a multicellular organism. No ecvolutionary theory suggests that a bunch of fruit flies would turn into something completely different in the course of a few years. That's a very silly straw man. Take a sizable population, divide them up and give them selection pressure and a few tens of millions of years, then we're talking.

It’s not analogous to a few years when a new generation spawns in just one week. After 40k generations of forced mutations there is no macro evolution, no new body plans,organs, novel features just mutants. Nothing like that had been observed, there are limitations to micro evolution that stops short of macro

that's not how it works

(December 30, 2019 at 3:35 am)Alex K Wrote:

(December 30, 2019 at 12:09 am)Yukon_Jack Wrote: It’s not analogous to a few years when a new generation spawns in just one week. After 40k generations of forced mutations there is no macro evolution, no new body plans,organs, novel features just mutants. Nothing like that had been observed, there are limitations to micro evolution that stops short of macro

that's not how it works

But Alex he knows way more about biology then the biologists ,And clearly understands Richard Lenski's experiments better then him .Because a creationist website told him so 

(December 30, 2019 at 12:09 am)Yukon_Jack Wrote: It’s not analogous to a few years when a new generation spawns in just one week. After 40k generations of forced mutations there is no macro evolution, no new body plans,organs, novel features just mutants. Nothing like that had been observed, there are limitations to micro evolution that stops short of macro

The average lifespan of humans in ancient history was maybe 30y. 40k generations x 30y = 1.2mio years.

How much have humans changed in 1mio years? Did anyone (but you) expect humans to have grown additional organs, legs or something? Does anyone (but you) expect something like that within 40k fruitfly generations?

(December 30, 2019 at 12:09 am)Yukon_Jack Wrote:

(December 29, 2019 at 8:14 pm)Alex K Wrote: It would have been quite astonishing if an experiment on E. coli would have yielded fruit flies after a few years.
But joking aside, no one reasonably expects having a box of bacteria who do their thing for a few years change into something radically different such as a multicellular organism. No ecvolutionary theory suggests that a bunch of fruit flies would turn into something completely different in the course of a few years.  That's a very silly straw man. Take a sizable population, divide them up and give them selection pressure and a few tens of millions of years, then we're talking.

It’s not analogous to a few years when a new generation spawns in just one week. After 40k generations of forced mutations there is no macro evolution, no new body plans,organs, novel features just mutants. Nothing like that had been observed, there are limitations to micro evolution that stops short of macro

What stops micro evolution becoming macro evolution? What is the process and what is your scientifically verified evidence for it?

(December 30, 2019 at 5:16 am)Deesse23 Wrote:

(December 30, 2019 at 12:09 am)Yukon_Jack Wrote: It’s not analogous to a few years when a new generation spawns in just one week. After 40k generations of forced mutations there is no macro evolution, no new body plans,organs, novel features just mutants. Nothing like that had been observed, there are limitations to micro evolution that stops short of macro

The average lifespan of humans in ancient history was maybe 30y. 40k generations x 30y = 1.2mio years.

How much have humans changed in 1mio years? Did anyone (but you) expect humans to have grown additional organs, legs or something? Does anyone (but you) expect something like that within 40k fruitfly generations?

He will just proclaim that that proves no macro evolution was demonstrated.Too bad for him this is not so .Just more dunning kruger creationism .

(December 29, 2019 at 8:14 pm)Alex K Wrote: Take a sizable population, divide them up and give them selection pressure and a few tens of millions of years, then we're talking.

And what makes you so strangely certain that it will happen? By definition, any process supposed to operate in a timespan of tens of millions of years is not observable, not testable, and not falsifiable. It's only inference and guesswork.