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Roger Penrose is a hack
#41
RE: Roger Penrose is a hack
(June 2, 2020 at 1:26 am)Fake Messiah Wrote:
(June 2, 2020 at 1:24 am)brokenreflector Wrote: Are you mentally ill?

Wow, a retard who said he could not be proven that universe is more than 5 minutes old is calling me mentally ill.

How would one go about "proving" that the universe is not five-minutes old with the appearance of it being 13.8 billion years old? Please enlighten the readers.
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#42
RE: Roger Penrose is a hack
(June 2, 2020 at 1:28 am)brokenreflector Wrote:
(June 2, 2020 at 1:26 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: Wow, a retard who said he could not be proven that universe is more than 5 minutes old is calling me mentally ill.

How would one go about "proving" that the universe is not five-minutes old with the appearance of it being 13.8 billion years old? Please enlighten the readers.

The readers are already enlightened because they are not mentally retarded like you are.
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#43
RE: Roger Penrose is a hack
(June 2, 2020 at 1:18 am)Fake Messiah Wrote:
(June 2, 2020 at 12:50 am)brokenreflector Wrote: I didn't twist Penrose's words.

So if Penrose is saying there is no God why would you create this topic?

(June 2, 2020 at 12:50 am)brokenreflector Wrote: he doesn't say dumb stuff like only matter and energy exists.

Actually he is saying "only matter and energy exists" because mental world is set in the matter (brain) and so is abstract world.
Considering penrose himself has considers himself a “a very materialistic and physicalist kind of person,” yeah i'll go with that
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#44
RE: Roger Penrose is a hack
(June 2, 2020 at 1:30 am)Fake Messiah Wrote:
(June 2, 2020 at 1:28 am)brokenreflector Wrote: How would one go about "proving" that the universe is not five-minutes old with the appearance of it being 13.8 billion years old? Please enlighten the readers.

The readers are already enlightened because they are not mentally retarded like you are.

That's very impressive. Every single person here knows how to prove that the universe is not five-minutes old with an appearance of being 13.8 billion years old. Since you've already solved that problem, can you now work on proving that you're not a brain in a vat being stimulated in a such way that you've imagined the external world? Thanks, bruh.
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#45
RE: Roger Penrose is a hack
(June 2, 2020 at 1:30 am)Fake Messiah Wrote:
(June 2, 2020 at 1:28 am)brokenreflector Wrote: How would one go about "proving" that the universe is not five-minutes old with the appearance of it being 13.8 billion years old? Please enlighten the readers.

The readers are already enlightened because they are not mentally retarded like you are.
Or high on religious bullshit
"Change was inevitable"


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#46
RE: Roger Penrose is a hack
(June 2, 2020 at 1:33 am)SUNGULA Wrote:
(June 2, 2020 at 1:18 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: So if Penrose is saying there is no God why would you create this topic?


Actually he is saying "only matter and energy exists" because mental world is set in the matter (brain) and so is abstract world.
Considering penrose himself has considers himself a “a very materialistic and physicalist kind of person,” yeah i'll go with that

Considering Penrose very literally says in the video (only 7 months old) that you haven't watched that reality is comprised of three aspects: physical, mind, and mental, I'm going to go with that.

Man, this forum is filled with some dumb dumbs. Are all of you from Flint, Michigan?
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#47
RE: Roger Penrose is a hack
Well then i guess he contradicts himself a lot because he fucking said “a very materialistic and physicalist kind of person,” from only 3 months ago so take it up with him  Hehe

Being called dumb by you would hurt if it were not ironic  Hehe

And lastly as brilliant as Penrose is his three worlds metaphysics is not widely embraced and remains his own pet theory. So invoking Penrose is empty at best .

Anyway back to ignoring your ignorant ass
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 “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
–SHIRLEY CHISHOLM


      
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#48
RE: Roger Penrose is a hack
(June 2, 2020 at 12:50 am)brokenreflector Wrote: I've read that Penrose is atheist. I believe he even said it himself, but when I read and listen to his work he sounds more like an agnostic than anything. He seems to be open to theism and isn't sure either way. He's certainly not like any of you guys who emotionally cling to atheism like a cult follower, and he doesn't say dumb stuff like only matter and energy exists.
Atheism is a statement about belief (A)gnosticism is a statement about knowledge. Most people in here are agnostic atheists, like Penrose obviously is too.

You are extremely ignorant and ill infornmed, which does not correspond very well with your arrogance and condescension. However it is very common to see that the ignorant dont know how ignorant they are.
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#49
RE: Roger Penrose is a hack
(June 2, 2020 at 3:08 am)Deesse23 Wrote:
(June 2, 2020 at 12:50 am)brokenreflector Wrote: I've read that Penrose is atheist. I believe he even said it himself, but when I read and listen to his work he sounds more like an agnostic than anything. He seems to be open to theism and isn't sure either way. He's certainly not like any of you guys who emotionally cling to atheism like a cult follower, and he doesn't say dumb stuff like only matter and energy exists.
Atheism is a statement about belief (A)gnosticism is a statement about knowledge. Most people in here are agnostic atheists, like Penrose obviously is too.

You are extremely ignorant and ill infornmed, which does not correspond very well with your arrogance and condescension. However it is very common to see that the ignorant dont know how ignorant they are.

During an interview with BBC Radio 4 on 25 September 2010, Penrose states, "I'm not a believer myself. I don't believe in established religions of any kind. I would say I'm an atheist", during a discussion on the Big Bang Theory.[31]
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#50
RE: Roger Penrose is a hack
(June 1, 2020 at 7:59 pm)brokenreflector Wrote: That's something an incel would say.

That's rich though. "Abaddon ire" with 4 Weeks, 2 Days, 23 Hours, 56 Minutes, 15 Seconds of time spent on a dead atheist forum crying about a being that he thinks is imaginary is calling somebody else an incel. Lololo.

Given that I have two almost adult progeny, that is amusingly deluded. Ya think the stork brought them perhaps?

Did I cut a little too close to the bone there?
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