(October 29, 2020 at 2:42 pm)onlinebiker Wrote:

(October 29, 2020 at 2:38 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: What, we don't have a crowd here that says how gun is just a tool, you know like a spoon? That it depends on its user if it's going to be used for bad or good.

Ohhh. Noooo...

Everybody knows that scary black guns make sane people into killing machines!

They're EEEVVVIILLL!

Which way to you want it? School yard sass talk or a serious discussion? You revert to sass talk when you don't have a response, we've noticed that long ago.

(October 29, 2020 at 2:59 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:

(October 29, 2020 at 2:42 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: Ohhh. Noooo...

Everybody knows that scary black guns make sane people into killing machines!

They're EEEVVVIILLL!

Which way to you want it? School yard sass talk or a serious discussion? You revert to sass talk when you don't have a response, we've noticed that long ago.

OLB is never going to get it. He has no concept of nuance. Anyone daring to suggest we do things differently are the enemy. We aren't, but he's had decades of needlessly swallowing the fearmongering the right has sold him.

(October 29, 2020 at 3:02 pm)Brian37 Wrote:

(October 29, 2020 at 2:59 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Which way to you want it? School yard sass talk or a serious discussion? You revert to sass talk when you don't have a response, we've noticed that long ago.

OLB is never going to get it. He has no concept of nuance. Anyone daring to suggest we do things differently are the enemy. We aren't, but he's had decades of needlessly swallowing the fearmongering the right has sold him.

LOL... 

You try trolling for sympathy by telling us how your daddy traumatized you with a gun - then self.admit you should not be able to own guns by reason of mental defect -

And THEN -

You want us to believe you are some sort of crusader charged with keeping guns from "being handed out like candy".

Punk - you got NO right to criticize my 50+ years of trouble free gun ownership.

(October 29, 2020 at 3:02 pm)Brian37 Wrote:

(October 29, 2020 at 2:59 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Which way to you want it? School yard sass talk or a serious discussion? You revert to sass talk when you don't have a response, we've noticed that long ago.

OLB is never going to get it. He has no concept of nuance. Anyone daring to suggest we do things differently are the enemy. We aren't, but he's had decades of needlessly swallowing the fearmongering the right has sold him.

Brian, you wouldn't know nuance if it introduced itself before biting you in the ass.

(October 29, 2020 at 12:58 pm)Brian37 Wrote:

(October 29, 2020 at 12:02 pm)BrokenQuill92 Wrote: I keep hearing people say no one is coming for your guns. Yes I am. If you’re a crazy racist. If brandish your weapon when the old cat lady says good morning. And I know I already say crazy racist but cops with too many complaints. Enough is enough. Yeah I don’t want crazy stupid assholes to have guns.

I think firearms should be taken from the suicidal, should be taken from domestic abusers, should be taken from addicts, should be taken from violent felons. But I also think that better vetting at time of sale would avoid having to be reactionary after the fact.

And yes, crazy doomsday nuts too. 

But when you put it like you just did, the crazies cry tyranny and oppression. 

They can't have it both ways. They can't say, "Just keep them out of the wrong hands", and bitch when we agree with them.

I bet all of the would agree that my blind butt doesn’t need a gun. I’ve held one before, oddly everyone else put theirs down and approached me very cautiously 😁

(October 29, 2020 at 3:27 pm)onlinebiker Wrote:

(October 29, 2020 at 3:02 pm)Brian37 Wrote: OLB is never going to get it. He has no concept of nuance. Anyone daring to suggest we do things differently are the enemy. We aren't, but he's had decades of needlessly swallowing the fearmongering the right has sold him.

LOL... 

You try trolling for sympathy by telling us how your daddy traumatized you with a gun - then self.admit you should not be able to own guns by reason of mental defect -

And THEN -

You want us to believe you are some sort of crusader charged with keeping guns from "being handed out like candy".

Punk - you got NO right to criticize my 50+ years of trouble free gun ownership.

And you have no right to criticize other people's high school educations.

(October 29, 2020 at 3:39 pm)BrokenQuill92 Wrote:

(October 29, 2020 at 12:58 pm)Brian37 Wrote: I think firearms should be taken from the suicidal, should be taken from domestic abusers, should be taken from addicts, should be taken from violent felons. But I also think that better vetting at time of sale would avoid having to be reactionary after the fact.

And yes, crazy doomsday nuts too. 

But when you put it like you just did, the crazies cry tyranny and oppression. 

They can't have it both ways. They can't say, "Just keep them out of the wrong hands", and bitch when we agree with them.

I bet all of the would agree that my blind butt doesn’t need a gun. I’ve held one before, oddly everyone else put theirs down and approached me very cautiously 😁

It is legal for the blind to.deer hunt in Michigan.

And I have gone on a hunt with a blind hunter - who got a nice doe.

(October 29, 2020 at 4:03 pm)onlinebiker Wrote:

(October 29, 2020 at 3:39 pm)BrokenQuill92 Wrote: I bet all of the would agree that my blind butt doesn’t need a gun. I’ve held one before, oddly everyone else put theirs down and approached me very cautiously 😁

It is legal for the blind to.deer hunt in Michigan.

And I have gone on a hunt with a blind hunter - who got a nice doe.

And? What does that have to do with anything. There you go again, focusing on one event, one person, and projecting the same old "one size fits all".

Did you help him aim the firearm physically? If not did you give him verbal commands to help him direct the firearm? Or was it he wasn't totally blind, just legally blind as in he couldn't drive a car?There is a huge difference between being medically blind, and legally blind. Legally blind doesn't mean 100% of your sight is gone.

In any case giving your example does not change the fact that America is #1 of western first world nations in firearm injuries and deaths.

John, my friend from Oklahoma is legally blind and owns a shotgun. But unlike you, he agrees with me that we have a firearm injury/death epidemic and he agrees with better vetting, better regulations and isn't paranoid about tyranny when people suggest we have gun safety laws.

Quote:Ohhh. Noooo...

Everybody knows that scary black guns make sane people into killing machines!

They're EEEVVVIILLL!

Strawman 

(October 29, 2020 at 7:25 pm)Brian37 Wrote:

(October 29, 2020 at 4:03 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: It is legal for the blind to.deer hunt in Michigan.

And I have gone on a hunt with a blind hunter - who got a nice doe.

And? What does that have to do with anything. There you go again, focusing on one event, one person, and projecting the same old "one size fits all".

Did you help him aim the firearm physically? If not did you give him verbal commands to help him direct the firearm? Or was it he wasn't totally blind, just legally blind as in he couldn't drive a car?There is a huge difference between being medically blind, and legally blind. Legally blind doesn't mean 100% of your sight is gone.

In any case giving your example does not change the fact that America is #1 of western first world nations in firearm injuries and deaths.

John, my friend from Oklahoma is legally blind and owns a shotgun. But unlike you, he agrees with me that we have a firearm injury/death epidemic and he agrees with better vetting, better regulations and isn't paranoid about tyranny when people suggest we have gun safety laws.

OLB is focusing on one event and you don't like it so you focus on one guy and that's okay.

Try again.