(September 13, 2021 at 2:27 pm)Angrboda Wrote:

(September 13, 2021 at 2:14 pm)WinterHold Wrote: Take a long step back and look at the world you've been ignoring to look at.
Here's what reality looks like:

1-There are human beings who believe in a religion called "Islam". They are humans just like everybody else having a free choice and they did literally choose this religion instead of yours.

False.  The majority of Muslims were raised into a religion they did not choose and adopted the beliefs of their guardians as people often do reflexively without thought or choice.

And once they grow above a certain age, they have their own souls and minds just like all humans. 
Don't forget that I personally revolted against the Hadith and against Sunni teachings. Humans have a choice. It's even stated in the Quran:

Quote:Sura 9, The Quran:
https://quran.com/9:23?store=false&translations=

(23) O you who have believed, do not take to yourselves your fathers and your brethren to be (your) patrons, in case they show love to disbelief (rather) than belief. And whoever of you patronizes them, then, those are they (who) are the unjust..

— Dr. Ghali

Blaming it all on the parents and the society is escaping responsibility. 

Quote:False. Some want to butcher Muslim extremists because they bring misery and human rights abuses wherever they hold sway. Majority Muslim nations are frequently destabilizing influences in the region.

Not really. Evidence showed that the U.S.A/China/Russia did support extremists; sometimes even created them out of thin air with the admission on Hillary Clinton:



One of the main reasons for the spread of terrorism globally is the American "funding and support" for terrorist proxies.

Quote:False. It's your xenophobic hatred, ignorance, and stupidity which tells you to resent these people you regularly single out as the cause of problems that actually have an origin in Muslim intolerance, bigotry, and extremism.

I'm a globalist dear; I believe that race is only there to define how we look:

Quote:Sura 49, The Quran:
https://quran.com/49:13?store=false&translations=
(13) O mankind, We have created you from a male and a female and made you into races and tribes, that you may know one another; indeed, the most noble of you in the sight of Allah are the most mindful(of Him) among you; indeed, Allah is All-Knowing, All-Aware.

— Fadel Soliman, Bridges’ translation

But I call out tyranny, crime and wrong deeds when I see them. That's not xenophobia; that's punching a murderer on the wound. Cutthroats hate to be called out for the crimes they do.

Quote:I don't hate Muslims generally. I hate you because you're bigoted, dishonest, stupid, ignorant, and spread lies about anyone not in your in-group. You'd be doing your goal a service if you'd just stop spreading hatred.

That's your personal opinion; but I don't spread lies because I fear my God very much. I actually know that if you sinned enough he will turn everything against you -and I mean here the little tiny details that we can't live without-, he ruins your plans, and the big details too.

Quote:but I don't spread lies 

Pardon me while I laugh til my gums bleed.

Boru

From Kung Fu to more woo, all in one thread, impressive.

And to show that he doesn't spread hate and lies, he spreads more hate and lies.

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(September 14, 2021 at 5:29 am)WinterHold Wrote:

(September 13, 2021 at 2:27 pm)Angrboda Wrote: False.  The majority of Muslims were raised into a religion they did not choose and adopted the beliefs of their guardians as people often do reflexively without thought or choice.

And once they grow above a certain age, they have their own souls and minds just like all humans. 
Don't forget that I personally revolted against the Hadith and against Sunni teachings. Humans have a choice. It's even stated in the Quran:

Humans have a choice, but the odds that they will exercise it once indoctrinated is slim; and Muslims are big on indoctrination. So the point stands.

(September 14, 2021 at 5:29 am)WinterHold Wrote:

Quote:False. Some want to butcher Muslim extremists because they bring misery and human rights abuses wherever they hold sway. Majority Muslim nations are frequently destabilizing influences in the region.

Not really. Evidence showed that the U.S.A/China/Russia did support extremists; sometimes even created them out of thin air with the admission on Hillary Clinton:



One of the main reasons for the spread of terrorism globally is the American "funding and support" for terrorist proxies.

Your whataboutism doesn't erase Muslim bad acts. How's the situation in Afghanistan, friend? Your attempt to shift blame to an 'other' only demonstrates the xenophobia that you deny.

(September 14, 2021 at 5:29 am)WinterHold Wrote:

Quote:False. It's your xenophobic hatred, ignorance, and stupidity which tells you to resent these people you regularly single out as the cause of problems that actually have an origin in Muslim intolerance, bigotry, and extremism.

I'm a globalist dear; I believe that race is only there to define how we look:

You're fooling yourself. You consistently blame non-Muslims and make excuses for Muslims. You may 'think' you're not xenophobic, but you think a lot of wrong shit.

(September 14, 2021 at 5:29 am)WinterHold Wrote: But I call out tyranny, crime and wrong deeds when I see them. That's not xenophobia; that's punching a murderer on the wound. Cutthroats hate to be called out for the crimes they do.

No you don't. You blame America and Europe for the world's evils. You're always pointing the finger outward.

(September 14, 2021 at 5:29 am)WinterHold Wrote:

Quote:I don't hate Muslims generally. I hate you because you're bigoted, dishonest, stupid, ignorant, and spread lies about anyone not in your in-group. You'd be doing your goal a service if you'd just stop spreading hatred.

That's your personal opinion; but I don't spread lies because I fear my God very much. I actually know that if you sinned enough he will turn everything against you -and I mean here the little tiny details that we can't live without-, he ruins your plans, and the big details too.

As Boru clearly attests, you lie all the time. You're lying now. And as to my personal opinion, my opinion was also that you're stupid and ignorant, which we proved with the plasma discussion. Not all opinions are created equal, and I have a reputation for being right a lot of the time, unlike you.

(September 14, 2021 at 5:29 am)WinterHold Wrote: Humans have a choice. It's even stated in the Quran:

Really? Do they? So what is the punishment for apostacy?

(September 14, 2021 at 6:02 am)arewethereyet Wrote: From Kung Fu to more woo, all in one thread, impressive.

Yeah, i noticed as well that the thread title was about "kung fu hustle", and by page 2 the very OP was citing verses from his holy book again*.
Almost as if he uses every measure and occasion to ....proselytize.
Is proselytizing tolerated on this forum?

*and this is not a "first", it happens regularly when the OP opens up yet another thread seemingly totally unrelated to his religion.

(September 14, 2021 at 11:22 am)Deesse23 Wrote:

(September 14, 2021 at 6:02 am)arewethereyet Wrote: From Kung Fu to more woo, all in one thread, impressive.

Yeah, i noticed as well that the thread title was about "kung fu hustle", and by page 2 the very OP was citing verses from his holy book again*.
Almost as if he uses every measure and occasion to ....proselytize.
Is proselytizing tolerated on this forum?

*and this is not a "first", it happens regularly when the OP opens up yet another thread seemingly totally unrelated to his religion.

Regularly derailing threads has in the past been considered trolling. That's what got Lil Rik banned. I haven't noticed that as much with Winterhold.

(September 14, 2021 at 11:34 am)Angrboda Wrote:

(September 14, 2021 at 11:22 am)Deesse23 Wrote: Yeah, i noticed as well that the thread title was about "kung fu hustle", and by page 2 the very OP was citing verses from his holy book again*.
Almost as if he uses every measure and occasion to ....proselytize.
Is proselytizing tolerated on this forum?

*and this is not a "first", it happens regularly when the OP opens up yet another thread seemingly totally unrelated to his religion.

Regularly derailing threads has in the past been considered trolling.  That's what got Lil Rik banned.  I haven't noticed that as much with Winterhold.

It is maybe possible to filter all threads created by Winterhold and also filter those he has derailed himself, by unnecessarily switching to posting Quran verses.

(September 14, 2021 at 9:33 am)Angrboda Wrote:

(September 14, 2021 at 5:29 am)WinterHold Wrote: And once they grow above a certain age, they have their own souls and minds just like all humans. 
Don't forget that I personally revolted against the Hadith and against Sunni teachings. Humans have a choice. It's even stated in the Quran:

Humans have a choice

Exactly. So what are you on about; again?

Quote: but the odds that they will exercise it once indoctrinated is slim; and Muslims are big on indoctrination.  So the point stands.

That's dictatorship and clear obvious psychopathy. Please see a doctor.

Quote:Your whataboutism doesn't erase Muslim bad acts. How's the situation in Afghanistan, friend? Your attempt to shift blame to an 'other' only demonstrates the xenophobia that you deny.

Afghanistan that witnessed a soviet invasion, followed by an American invasion?
I think it's doing pretty good; its people are heroes for standing against arrogant invaders for decade.

Quote:No you don't. You blame America and Europe for the world's evils. You're always pointing the finger outward.

https://atheistforums.org/thread-63209.html

Quote:Winterhold wrote:

Yes, you read the title of the topic right: the early ancestors of Muslims (who invented the Hadith schools) burned the Ka'aba in the year 692:

 are you sure this is not a trolling attempt from you?
I saw what you try to do, please discuss the topic of the clip if you wanted me to reply to you.

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