(February 1, 2022 at 1:39 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote:

1. They’re milder… if you got vaccinated.
   
2. How exactly is the narrative dead and gone when death tolls keep climbing, hospitals are being worked to their capacity, and the newer variants get easier to spread? It may be a bit early to claim victory while all these things are happening.
   
3. And while I haven’t watched that clip from The View you’re talking about, how is the narrative about masks dead and gone when they’ve still proven to be effective (albeit with more stringent standards)?
   
4. It’s a bit premature to make a call one way or another with the fourth dose of the vaccine, especially given that the link you’re talking about is talking about the first ever study, one with 150 participants (far lower than usual). 
   
5. While the vaccine doesn’t give total immunity against omicron, even the article you linked to points out that it increases resistance and number of antibodies, which, while imperfect, does give you enough resistance to allow you to think “oh, this isn’t much worse than the flu.”
   

South African study suggests Omicron less severe even for unvaccinated. https://www.reuters.com/business/healthc...022-01-14/

Yes, I am aware that people are dying and being hospitalized. The point is that things are going to be better in the long run, because of Omicron and now BA.2. You take the tradeoff of people dying now for a better long term outcome. These variants are highly transmissible, and that's what is going to lead to at least some level of herd immunity. Vaccines were never going to lead to any type of herd immunity like the scientific so called "experts" and authoritative voices told us.

About the masks, they are having an awful effect on the development of children. We need to get rid of masks ASAP when it is reasonable to do so. The clowns on the View can wear their masks for the rest of their lives if they want, but if they want to force this on children as something that sticks around forever, that is simply evil.

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(February 1, 2022 at 3:05 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote:

(January 25, 2022 at 5:02 pm)Irreligious Atheist Wrote: I just don't think it's appropriate to put a mandate on the covid vaccines right now when this is something with a better than 99 percent survival rate. If this was something that was a lot more dangerous, you'd have a much better case for mandates.

(January 31, 2022 at 1:28 pm)Irreligious Atheist Wrote: Cringe. No one said covid is not dangerous. 

Which of these two assholes should we be taking our medical advice from?

"A lot more dangerous" implies that I think it is still dangerous. Learn to English.

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In other news, 70 % of Americans are ready to move on with their lives. The narrative is crumbling. https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/59...-life-poll

(February 1, 2022 at 3:17 pm)Irreligious Atheist Wrote: In other news, 70 % of Americans are ready to move on with their lives. The narrative is crumbling.  https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/59...-life-poll

And if only that was the people's choice to make and not the disease's.

Also worth noting about that study mentioned: half of Americans still support the use of mask and social distancing guidelines.

Learn to remember your own bullshit a little better. It's hurting your effectiveness as an agent of disease and ignorance. Or just stop - but we know that won't happen, don't we? You're too far down the well of a sunk cost to bear the shame of your comments retraction. Seems like a pattern with you. Might have something to do with the type of content you consume. Lots of overlap.

Miss me with the garbage about babbies. You don't now and never have given a fuck that or if masks harm the development of children, and you'd stumble all over your dick just trying to explain that. Another pro-tip. When you're spreading disinformation, you need to keep something genuine or you'll trip off peoples bs detectors.

Quote:In other news, 70 % of Americans are ready to move on with their lives. The narrative is crumbling.

Popular opinion doesn't make reality go away 

At work.

It's nice to see Warhammer 40K fans are still about.

How's the paint scheme going on your 'Plague spreader' chaos forces there Irreligious?

(February 1, 2022 at 3:13 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: I'd much rather be a little bit sick than a whole lot dead.

Pushing against vaccines while having gotten one makes IRA a hypocritical ass who thinks if he keeps talking the reality will change.

To relieve my covid symptoms, I smoked a bunch of pot and took diverticulitis pills every day to help with the nausea. I'm not going to recommend those things to everyone who gets covid either. People should talk to their doctor, and do their own research and find out what they think is best for them. Taking the vaccine does not make me a hypocrite. I'm neither for nor against adults taking the vaccine. I'm for personal choice here. I don't see where hypocrisy comes into the picture.

You have asthma, supposedly, so your solution was to smoke a lot of pot.

How perfectly that sums up your intellect.

As for IA bullshit about masks and children 

https://healthfeedback.org/claimreview/m...-desantis/

(February 1, 2022 at 3:37 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Learn to remember your own bullshit a little better.  It's hurting your effectiveness as an agent of disease and ignorance.  Or just stop - but we know that won't happen, don't we?  You're too far down the well of a sunk cost to bear the shame of your comments retraction.  Seems like a pattern with you. Might have something to do with the type of content you consume.  Lots of overlap.

Miss me with the garbage about babbies.  You don't now and never have given a fuck that or if masks harm the development of children, and you'd stumble all over your dick just trying to explain that.  Another pro-tip.  When you're spreading disinformation, you need to keep something genuine or you'll trip off peoples bs detectors.

Danger is a spectrum, just like gender. You can have something like rabies, which is almost certain death, and that is dangerous. Omicron, on the other hand, is also dangerous, but a far different level of danger. Covid is closer to a 1 on a out of 100 scale of danger, whereas other diseases might be closer to 50 or 100 on that scale. You understood very well what I was saying.

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(February 1, 2022 at 4:07 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: You have asthma, supposedly, so your solution was to smoke a lot of pot.

How perfectly that sums up your intellect.

And it didn't cause any more problems than usual with my breathing, so no harm done.

(February 1, 2022 at 4:10 pm)Irreligious Atheist Wrote:

(February 1, 2022 at 3:37 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Learn to remember your own bullshit a little better.  It's hurting your effectiveness as an agent of disease and ignorance.  Or just stop - but we know that won't happen, don't we?  You're too far down the well of a sunk cost to bear the shame of your comments retraction.  Seems like a pattern with you. Might have something to do with the type of content you consume.  Lots of overlap.

Miss me with the garbage about babbies.  You don't now and never have given a fuck that or if masks harm the development of children, and you'd stumble all over your dick just trying to explain that.  Another pro-tip.  When you're spreading disinformation, you need to keep something genuine or you'll trip off peoples bs detectors.

Danger is a spectrum, just like gender. You can have something like rabies, which is almost certain death, and that is dangerous. Omicron, on the other hand, is also dangerous, but a far different level of danger. Covid is closer to a 1 on a out of 100 scale of danger, whereas other diseases might be closer to 50 or 100 on that scale. You understood very well what I was saying.

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https://www.cdc.gov/rabies/location/usa/index.html

'The number of rabies-related human deaths in the United States declined during the twentieth century, from more than 100 annually in the early 1900’s to just one or two per year since 1960.'

Turns out that rabies isn't as dangerous as you think it is. Good try though. Keep reaching...you are nearly falling on your face.