It's a lot like making things fit within a horoscope. When vague enough, you can make it work.

(June 12, 2022 at 12:35 pm)Brian37 Wrote:

(June 12, 2022 at 8:50 am)WinterHold Wrote: Every time I find a verse in the Quran that applies to scientific concepts that we newly discovered in this age only, I have to share it. It is not due to my lack of belief; but it is due to the simple reminding that the Quran is the truth.

Look at this verse and you'll understand:

Man you are dense. You have been repeating this for years. Saying the earth is flat 1 billion times does not make the earth flat.

Neither the Koran, or Bible, or Torah or Talmud, not Buddhist writings, not Hindu writings, or ancient Mayan writings constitute modern scientific knowledge. None of those things are science textbooks. 

You are wrong in trying to retrofit science to your old mythology as much as any other religious apologist who does it for another religion.

All I said is the following verse:

Quote:Sura 21, The Quran:


https://quran.com/21?startingVerse=30&tr...C207%2C149

(30) Do the disbelievers not realize that the heavens and earth were ˹once˺ one mass then We split them apart?1 And We created from water every living thing. Will they not then believe?

— Dr. Mustafa Khattab, the Clear Quran

 How is that a retrofit ?
Even though it's 1400 years old

Keep trying to shove modern science into your fairytales Winter 

(June 12, 2022 at 1:13 pm)Angrboda Wrote: Funny how nobody figured out some fact of nature by reading the Quran before science figured it out.

Believe me, a lot figured it out waaaay before modern science was even born.
My ancestors even brought down the walls of Constantinople and made it Islampol ...Sorry Istanbul. 

Today we are 23% of the world's population :/

(June 12, 2022 at 1:28 pm)Astreja Wrote: There are very few verses in scriptures that can't be shoehorned into a scientific theory.  Scriptures are notoriously vague and generally useless for practical applications of the things they allegedly discovered.

I'm amused that religious people continue to play this game - it actually undermines their position.  Think of it this way:  A scientist (usually of a different belief, or none) has succeeded in explaining a natural principle better than a god.  

IDK Astrega, I mean a cosmologist would literally say:

"Hey; the universe was single dense unit that exploded".

A Muslim would say:

"heavens and earth were ˹once˺ one mass then God split them apar?"

The first gets a noble prize 
The second get a crusade.

Funny.

Nope 

(June 12, 2022 at 5:41 pm)WinterHold Wrote:

(June 12, 2022 at 1:13 pm)Angrboda Wrote: Funny how nobody figured out some fact of nature by reading the Quran before science figured it out.

Believe me, a lot figured it out waaaay before modern science was even born.
My ancestors even brought down the walls of Constantinople and made it Islampol ...Sorry Istanbul. 

Today we are 23% of the world's population :/

Liar. Name one.

(June 12, 2022 at 8:50 am)WinterHold Wrote:

(June 7, 2022 at 1:46 pm)Angrboda Wrote: The older I get, the more respect I have for people who simply say they believe on faith and that's good enough for them.  At the other end of the spectrum you have people like Winterhold whose incessant attempts to plaster over their faith with a veneer of pathetically unconvincing rationality bespeaks an enormous amount of cognitive dissonance.  Their behavior strongly suggests that they're only holding onto belief by way of enormous effort to counteract and suppress facts that they find distressing and which sorely test their level of commitment.

Every time I find a verse in the Quran that applies to scientific concepts that we newly discovered in this age only, I have to share it. It is not due to my lack of belief; but it is due to the simple reminding that the Quran is the truth.

Look at this verse and you'll understand:

Quote:Sura 3, The Quran:
https://quran.com/3?startingVerse=191

(191)˹They are˺ those who remember Allah while standing, sitting, and lying on their sides, and reflect on the creation of the heavens and the earth ˹and pray˺, “Our Lord! You have not created ˹all of˺ this without purpose. Glory be to You! Protect us from the torment of the Fire.

[color=var(--color-text-faded)]— Dr. Mustafa Khattab, the Clear Quran[/color]

No you don't, because if you actually did that you wouldn't be bringing upany. Tyere are no qu'ranic verses that point to a valid scientific theory.

What you do instead is, is point to verses that fundamentalist preachers with no scientific knowledge or curiosity tell you are scientific.

Quote:Believe me, a lot figured it out waaaay before modern science was even born.

No, he didn't 

Quote:My ancestors even brought down the walls of Constantinople and made it Islampol ...Sorry Istanbul. 

Conquering cities doesn't make you smart.

Quote:Today we are 23% of the world's population :/

Having a large population means nothing 

@WinterHold

Quote:Read my text again and again: scientists' knowledge stop at the explosion of the Singularity; nobody knows what came before the Singularity:

‘Before the Singularity’ is a semantically null statement. It’s like asking ‘What colour is Tuesday?’ or ‘What does blue taste like?’

Boru