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frankiej · December 3, 2011 at 9:24 pm

Well, stay away from Scotland with your Jesus zombieness. I get enough from my gran Tongue

~~Matthaῖos~~ · December 3, 2011 at 9:34 pm

(December 3, 2011 at 9:17 pm)Minimalist Wrote:
Quote:but also more wide-ranging comparison of theistic and atheistic worldviews.

Worldview?

I suspect you'll find that we agree that "god" is a childish concept; a holdover from mankind's superstitious and ignorant past.

On other issues you'll find that we fight like cats and dogs among ourselves because there is no such thing as an atheistic "worldview."

You see, my friend, we have no preachers to tell us how "god" expects us to think.

By atheistic worldview, I simply mean a worldview (the set of a person's most basic views about the world) which includes, as one of its views, atheism. So there are many different atheistic worldviews (e.g. atheistic forms of Buddhism, secular humanism, nihilism) just as there are many different theistic worldviews (e.g. Enlightenment deism, Roman Catholicism, pantheism). Not everyone is nicely described by a particular label, of course.

**The Grand Nudger** · December 3, 2011 at 9:37 pm

Welcome aboard.

**Minimalist** · December 3, 2011 at 9:42 pm

Quote:By atheistic worldview, I simply mean a worldview (the set of a person's most basic views about the world) which includes, as one of its views, atheism.

You are reading too much into a disinclination to accept fairy tales as reality.

Diamond · December 3, 2011 at 9:52 pm

Hi, there! Big Grin

~~Matthaῖos~~ · December 3, 2011 at 9:52 pm

(December 3, 2011 at 9:42 pm)Minimalist Wrote:
Quote:By atheistic worldview, I simply mean a worldview (the set of a person's most basic views about the world) which includes, as one of its views, atheism.
You are reading too much into a disinclination to accept fairy tales as reality.

I am not reading anything into atheism whatsoever. I'm simply stating the obvious: that atheists hold more views (of a basic sort) than simply a rejection of theism, and those views differ from person to person (as you rightly pointed out in your last post). I mean nothing more and nothing less by the phrase "atheistic worldview" than that.

**thesummerqueen** · December 4, 2011 at 12:12 pm

Hey Mattie. Welcome. Do you hang around our chatroom every now and again or am I thinking of a different Mattie?

**Minimalist** · December 4, 2011 at 12:16 pm

Quote:I mean nothing more and nothing less by the phrase "atheistic worldview" than that.

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt for now but understand that plenty of theists show up here telling us what we believe because we reject their fairy tales. It's annoying.

5thHorseman · December 4, 2011 at 12:31 pm

Hello Mathaios, I'm from Cambridge.

Enjoy the forum and please partake in debates and threads. Smile

**Cyberman** · December 4, 2011 at 2:41 pm

Hi Matthaῖos, interesting name you have there if you don't mind me saying so. Good to have another Englander on board, even if you're not a fellow atheist (yet, anyway). Just one thing I'd like to throw out there at this early juncture: it would be nice if you asked what we, as atheists, actually believe instead of just flat-out telling us. It's not merely polite; it saves no end of hilarious misunderstandings further down the line.

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