(March 28, 2023 at 4:05 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(March 28, 2023 at 12:02 pm)FlatAssembler Wrote: To be clear, I made many minor assumptions in my paper which could be wrong, without significantly affecting my conclusion. Perhaps the ancient name for Đakovo should really be reconstructed as *Certissa rather than the epigraphically attested Certissia, and the ancient name for Omiš was indeed Almissa rather than *Almissia (and the change from 's' to 'š' is... irregular, I guess), in which case there is no basis for reconstructing the Illyrian suffix -issia, so that the ancient name for Karašica could really be something like *Kurrurrussia rather than *Kurrurrissia. Perhaps there is an Indo-European root like *ker (rather than *kjer) from which a river name could plausibly be derived, in which case my claim that Illyrian was a centum language is baseless. But those things do not affect the main conclusion of my paper.

There are as yet undiscovered tribes in the Amazon basin who care about this more than I do.

Boru

I don't care either. Those things do not affect the main conclusion of my paper.

(March 29, 2023 at 6:51 am)FlatAssembler Wrote:

(March 28, 2023 at 4:05 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: There are as yet undiscovered tribes in the Amazon basin who care about this more than I do.

Boru

I don't care either. Those things do not affect the main conclusion of my paper.

You miss my point. I don’t care about your paper at all. I don’t care about the details or the conclusion. I don’t care about your p-values or place names in Croatia. I don’t care that you were published or that you’ve found a handful of people who agree with you. I don’t care if your conclusions are right, wrong, or somewhere in between.

I. Don’t. Care.

Boru

There may be linguists that care about this. I don't know. Even if true, though, so what? Does it say anything about ancient migrations? Culture? Anything of interest?

As far as I can see, the statistics are poor, the topic is irrelevant to all but a very few, and it is far from clear that the conclusions are correct.

Not to mention: how its it relevant for this forum???

(March 29, 2023 at 9:48 pm)polymath257 Wrote: There may be linguists that care about this. I don't know. Even if true, though, so what? Does it say anything about ancient migrations? Culture? Anything of interest?

As far as I can see, the statistics are poor, the topic is irrelevant to all but a very few, and it is far from clear that the conclusions are correct.

Not to mention: how its it relevant for this forum???

Well, if Illyrian really was a centum language (as I claim in that paper), that means Albanian is not descended from Illyrian. So, yeah, I am implying quite some ancient migrations.

What do you mean by "statistics are poor"?

Of course, whether or not Illyrian is a centum language is not the main topic of that paper. The main topic is the idea that the Croatian river names that start with k-r are etymologically related.

(March 30, 2023 at 10:14 pm)FlatAssembler Wrote: Of course, whether or not Illyrian is a centum language is not the main topic of that paper. The main topic is the idea that the Croatian river names that start with k-r are etymologically related.

And, what, three people in the world are interested and one of them says this is BS?

(March 29, 2023 at 10:56 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(March 29, 2023 at 6:51 am)FlatAssembler Wrote: I don't care either. Those things do not affect the main conclusion of my paper.

You miss my point. I don’t care about your paper at all. I don’t care about the details or the conclusion. I don’t care about your p-values or place names in Croatia. I don’t care that you were published or that you’ve found a handful of people who agree with you. I don’t care if your conclusions are right, wrong, or somewhere in between.

I. Don’t. Care.

Boru

I don't know if this is inappropriate, and if it is I apologise to FlatAssembler for bringing it up (and also, to be clear, I'm not attacking you here, just bringing this up because it seems relevant), but then many in my life have suggested I may also be on the Autistic/Asperger's spectrum albeit "high functioning" (though never diagnosed), but it seems to me that this could be related to that. Ie a) obsessive interest in often niche subjects, and b) a common trait of Autism apparently being to have variable levels of difficulty understanding other people's perspectives etc, due to deficits in creating a 'theory of mind' of others' mental states, including their levels of interest etc.

In my own case I'm sure you've read my walls of text and thought either 'what a load of bollocks' and/or 'no one cares' (not just you, I mean anyone... and not necessarily about everything I write but at least some), and the extent that I can theorise that that's what you do or might think speaks to my ability to create 'theories of mind'... which overall seems pretty good or at least adequate (which might equate to 'high functioning'), but nonetheless I do think I still have deficits in that area, often - due to a certain rigidness in my thinking - assuming interest and/or understanding that probably in many cases isn't there.

(March 31, 2023 at 10:32 am)emjay Wrote:

(March 29, 2023 at 10:56 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: You miss my point. I don’t care about your paper at all. I don’t care about the details or the conclusion. I don’t care about your p-values or place names in Croatia. I don’t care that you were published or that you’ve found a handful of people who agree with you. I don’t care if your conclusions are right, wrong, or somewhere in between.

I. Don’t. Care.

Boru

I don't know if this is inappropriate, and if it is I apologise to FlatAssembler for bringing it up (and also, to be clear, I'm not attacking you here, just bringing this up because it seems relevant), but then many in my life have suggested I may also be on the Autistic/Asperger's spectrum albeit "high functioning" (though never diagnosed), but it seems to me that this could be related to that. Ie a) obsessive interest in often niche subjects, and b) a common trait of Autism apparently being to have variable levels of difficulty understanding other people's perspectives etc, due to deficits in creating a 'theory of mind' of others' mental states, including their levels of interest etc.

In my own case I'm sure you've read my walls of text and thought either 'what a load of bollocks' and/or 'no one cares' (not just you, I mean anyone... and not necessarily about everything I write but at least some), and the extent that I can theorise that that's what you do or might think speaks to my ability to create 'theories of mind'... which overall seems pretty good or at least adequate (which might equate to 'high functioning'), but nonetheless I do think I still have deficits in that area, often - due to a certain rigidness in my thinking - assuming interest and/or understanding that probably in many cases isn't there.

It is entirely possible that Flat is on the spectrum. This doesn't alter the fact that I have no interest in place name in Croatia.

Boru

(March 31, 2023 at 11:38 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(March 31, 2023 at 10:32 am)emjay Wrote: I don't know if this is inappropriate, and if it is I apologise to FlatAssembler for bringing it up (and also, to be clear, I'm not attacking you here, just bringing this up because it seems relevant), but then many in my life have suggested I may also be on the Autistic/Asperger's spectrum albeit "high functioning" (though never diagnosed), but it seems to me that this could be related to that. Ie a) obsessive interest in often niche subjects, and b) a common trait of Autism apparently being to have variable levels of difficulty understanding other people's perspectives etc, due to deficits in creating a 'theory of mind' of others' mental states, including their levels of interest etc.

In my own case I'm sure you've read my walls of text and thought either 'what a load of bollocks' and/or 'no one cares' (not just you, I mean anyone... and not necessarily about everything I write but at least some), and the extent that I can theorise that that's what you do or might think speaks to my ability to create 'theories of mind'... which overall seems pretty good or at least adequate (which might equate to 'high functioning'), but nonetheless I do think I still have deficits in that area, often - due to a certain rigidness in my thinking - assuming interest and/or understanding that probably in many cases isn't there.

It is entirely possible that Flat is on the spectrum. This doesn't alter the fact that I have no interest in place name in Croatia.

Boru

Fair enough... as I said I wasn't attacking you. And as I also said, I wasn't sure how appropriate it was to bring this up any way, not just for his sake but in general. In other words just chalk it up to more 'foot in mouth' disease, which unfortunately I'm often afflicted with