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RE: Any Nihilists here?
August 24, 2023 at 4:56 am
Life is in vain..is, again, a quote from nietzsche describing nihilist pathos.
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RE: Any Nihilists here?
August 24, 2023 at 4:58 am
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Life is vain. It has no objective purpose or meaning or value.
Doesn't mean you can't enjoy it.
But if you hold to certain positions then you are a nihilist, or Christian, or whatever, regardless of disposition or mood.
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RE: Any Nihilists here?
August 24, 2023 at 4:59 am
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Christ almighty, nevermind, lol. Giddy Nihilist would be a good band name though.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Any Nihilists here?
August 24, 2023 at 5:01 am
Can I ask again what sources of information on these philosophies you'd recommend to see them the way you do?
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RE: Any Nihilists here?
August 24, 2023 at 5:01 am
Obviously my source for that last comment was a nobody who didn't know a thing about nihilism.
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RE: Any Nihilists here?
August 24, 2023 at 5:02 am
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So your key source is Nietzsche for nihilism. Any others? And any of Nietzsche's works in particular?
And what for absurdism and existentialism?
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RE: Any Nihilists here?
August 24, 2023 at 5:08 am
(August 24, 2023 at 4:56 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Life is in vain..is, again, a quote from nietzsche describing nihilist pathos.
Premise: A true nihilist wouldn't even bother talking about nihilism.
Conclusion: There are no true nihilists.
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RE: Any Nihilists here?
August 24, 2023 at 5:08 am
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Camus and Sartre, obviously, would be a good place. I could give you some contemporaries but contemporary philosophers do tend to be extremely narrow in their context. Rather than the broad strokes about a particular metaethical theory, they'll needle in on a single aspect of a single metaethical theory. Shelley Kagan is probably one of my favorite contemporary realists - focuses on moral dessert and how it routinely (and predictably!) modifies our moral conclusions, and as a bonus he's got a good narrative voice and style. I tend to like the ones that see the main issue in their preferred philosophy and just own it. Kagan, for example, deflates nuts by agreeing that, as a realist, he also doesn't think that life or morality offers any "ultimate value" or "ultimate meaning".
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Pretty much. We're complicated and compromised. What can I say, I agree with the original nihilist on this one. I think that the best we can do is intellectual nihilism. Just a tick of biology.
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RE: Any Nihilists here?
August 24, 2023 at 5:09 am
What's a true nihilist?
Is it like a true Christian, or true absurdist, or true Scotsman?
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RE: Any Nihilists here?
August 24, 2023 at 5:10 am
(August 24, 2023 at 5:08 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Camus and Sartre, obviously, would be a good place. I could give you some contemporaries but contemporary philosophers do tend to be extremely narrow in their context. Rather than the broad strokes about a particular metaethical theory, they'll needle in on a single aspect of a single metaethical theory. Shelley Kagan is probably one of my favorite contemporary realists - focuses on moral dessert and how it routinely (and predictably!) modifies our moral conclusions.
Cool. I haven't listened/read to much Kagan. Maybe that's the key area of difference that has led to our differing views about nihilism and absurdism.
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