(September 5, 2023 at 5:03 am)no one Wrote: Or maybe, a good long look in the mirror.

But that is too much hard work.

I do not blame my inadequacies on anyone.
I do not expect anyone to owe me anything.

I'm not sure how that addresses the issue.

Plenty of lonely people unable to plausibly receive sexual validation from other humans do not blame anyone or expect anything.

But for those that don't, it is everyone else's problem.

(September 5, 2023 at 5:13 am)no one Wrote: But for those that don't, it is everyone else's problem.

Both are social problems that affect everyone.

Loneliness is a huge killer, and a drain on resources.

Sexism is also. But in a more grim way.

Best to see and treat everything as a disease or social ill, rather than seek to blame individuals for being horrible.

How can society best prevent people from being sexist, or lonely, or whatever, or mitigate the harm of them becoming so. Etc.

The mirror isn't pretty, believe me I know.
I do my best to keep my conundrum complications my own complications. I know sometimes they spill over, but this burden is squarely on my shoulders.

This is a scary realization, too scary for some.

(September 5, 2023 at 5:04 am)FrustratedFool Wrote: Plenty of lonely people unable to plausibly receive sexual validation from other humans do not blame anyone or expect anything.

Thread is about incels, who do indeed seem to blame others and exude entitlement.

(September 5, 2023 at 9:07 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:

(September 5, 2023 at 5:04 am)FrustratedFool Wrote: Plenty of lonely people unable to plausibly receive sexual validation from other humans do not blame anyone or expect anything.

Thread is about incels, who do indeed seem to blame others and exude entitlement.

Indeed, that's pretty much the definition of incel.

(September 5, 2023 at 9:15 am)arewethereyet Wrote:

(September 5, 2023 at 9:07 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Thread is about incels, who do indeed seem to blame others and exude entitlement.

Indeed, that's pretty much the definition of incel.

Tell it to him. I'm no apologist trying to muddy the waters.

(September 5, 2023 at 9:19 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:

(September 5, 2023 at 9:15 am)arewethereyet Wrote: Indeed, that's pretty much the definition of incel.

Tell it to him. I'm no apologist trying to muddy the waters.

I was agreeing with you.

Incels have existed for some time, women just have voices now.

Even though society no longer truly embraces this mentality, it will still burrow its way in.

(September 5, 2023 at 9:19 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:

(September 5, 2023 at 9:15 am)arewethereyet Wrote: Indeed, that's pretty much the definition of incel.

Tell it to him. I'm no apologist trying to muddy the waters.

FF is certainly not an apologist trying to muddy the waters. 

In the post you replied to, he is pointing out that not all lonely people blame others for their loneliness. In other words, many lonely people are not incels.