(September 20, 2023 at 10:51 am)Deesse23 Wrote: There is no science of atheism.

Why write a multi paragraph post, why even create a thread about nothing?

Atheism is the opinion that the existence of a sentient creator has not been validly demonstrated.

Opinions are not scientific.

(September 20, 2023 at 9:12 pm)LinuxGal Wrote:

(September 20, 2023 at 10:51 am)Deesse23 Wrote: There is no science of atheism.

Why write a multi paragraph post, why even create a thread about nothing?

Atheism is the opinion that the existence of a sentient creator has not been validly demonstrated.

Opinions are not scientific.

And? Godbotherers have a science for gawd?

(September 20, 2023 at 9:13 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:

(September 20, 2023 at 9:12 pm)LinuxGal Wrote: Atheism is the opinion that the existence of a sentient creator has not been validly demonstrated.

Opinions are not scientific.

And? Godbotherers have a science for gawd?

In my opinion no.

(September 20, 2023 at 8:19 pm)Ahriman Wrote:

(September 20, 2023 at 6:25 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: What a mindwobblingly stupid video. God isn’t ‘a different kind of explanation’. God is no explanation at all. It’s an excuse used by people who can’t count past ten with their shoes on.

Boru

Yeah man, I'm sure Thomas Aquinas, Saint Augustine, and many others were just dumb as rocks, definitely not intelligent people. I don't care if you don't believe in God, but do not call His followers stupid.

"Stupid" literally is when a fan of Aquinas argues that he knew about quantum physics, then gets so angry to the point he looks like he wants to beat the crap out of me, for simply asking for Aquinas's formulas. Yes, I had an asshole get so angry he threatened me because I kept on asking him for Aquinas's formulas. Aquinas was dumb as fucking rocks, and every religion has fans that pull this shit. 

They will pull ambiguous quotes from antiquity and point to it and say, "See this proves this guy was right about what we know now". 

Bullshit, otherwise I could argue with this same guy that he should be a ancient Greek polytheist because Empedocles came up with the idea of "elements" as in "earth stuff, water stuff, air stuff, fire stuff". Or that the ancient Greeks created the word "atom", which is not the modern definition. Back then "atom" simply meant the smallest thing you could think of philosophically that could not be divided any further. They had no idea what a Higgs/Boson particle was back then. They had no idea wat a quark or electron or protons or neutrons were. 

I've had Muslims in other cases argue that Allah is the one true God because Arabs invented Algebra. I had another Muslim point to a verse and claim that Allah picks the sex of the baby based on congealed blood. 

Those are all true stories in my 25 years of debate. Every religion in the world, Christians, Muslims, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists ect ect, all have fans, members, "scientists", theologians who try to retrofit science after the fact to point to their club. 

Don't believe me? Try this. 

Do a google search, type in "Christian Science" 

Then google search, "Science in the Koran" 


Then, "Jewish science" 

Then, "Buddhist science" 

Then  "Hindu Science" 

You will find apologists of every label in those religions trying to get science to point to their specific club. 

Saying "God did it" is stupid. It is literally intellectual laziness and worse, potentially precluding oneself from finding real scientific facts as to why something happens. 

It ok to say "I don't know". It is arrogant to not only say "I know, but I am also going to base it on ancient mythology". 

Aquinas didn't know shit, and the asshole who wanted to beat me up for questioning his logic was being a petty bully.

(September 20, 2023 at 8:56 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: Actually it was. Some day when you have a chance look up what the Hebrew cosmos looed like. Google is your friend.

Google is the bastard son of DARPA, one of FAANG. Woke ass stupid misinformation and soon a thing of the past, replaced by sources like [shudder] Reddit.

And I know what the Bible teaches about the cosmos (cosmetic. Cosmos), the Hebrew and the Greek, and I even know what your silly traditional education mistakes it for, ironically, the dark ages science that looks like this . . .



The Flammarion engraving, colorized here because that's just the kind of guy I am, which is not an accurate representation of the Bible but Bible dictionaries in the dark ages. Because that [ahem] was the science of the day influencing the more accurate Bible. Never listen to science people, it's almost always wrong. Like Mr Ball.

(September 20, 2023 at 9:12 pm)LinuxGal Wrote:

(September 20, 2023 at 10:51 am)Deesse23 Wrote: There is no science of atheism.

Why write a multi paragraph post, why even create a thread about nothing?

Atheism is the opinion that the existence of a sentient creator has not been validly demonstrated.

Opinions are not scientific.

Wrong. 
Atheism is the total dismissal of the concept having any value, or any evidence. It's *not even* what you claim.  
It has the value (or less) of pink sparkly unicorns. 
There is no reason why the value of the concept of gods has any more value than the least coherent concept imaginable. 
I never heard your opinion of what atheist opinions are, it certainly is not mine. 
Where did you study mind-reading ?  Do you do crystal ball readings ?
There are no scientific "anythings" about the gods.
If there were, "faith" would not be necessary.
There is no evidence gods exist, just as there is no evidence sparkly unicorns exist.
There is no coherent definition of a "god".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignosticis...definition.
It's not an "opinion".
There is no peer-reviewed study with respect to the gods that demonstrated their existence ... if there was, let's see it. What was the null hypothesis ? LMAO

(September 20, 2023 at 9:22 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Yes, I had an asshole get so angry he threatened me because I kept on asking him for Aquinas's formulas.

Did you used to post on Rational Responders waaaay back in the day?

Nevermind.

(September 20, 2023 at 9:41 pm)Data Wrote:

(September 20, 2023 at 8:56 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: Actually it was. Some day when you have a chance look up what the Hebrew cosmos looed like. Google is your friend.

Google is the bastard son of DARPA, one of FAANG. Woke ass stupid misinformation and soon a thing of the past, replaced by sources like [shudder] Reddit.

And I know what the Bible teaches about the cosmos (cosmetic. Cosmos), the Hebrew and the Greek, and I even know what your silly traditional education mistakes it for, ironically, the dark ages science that looks like this . . .

The Flammarion engraving, colorized here because that's just the kind of guy I am, which is not an accurate representation of the Bible but Bible dictionaries in the dark ages. Because that [ahem] was the science of the day influencing the more accurate Bible. Never listen to science people, it's almost always wrong. Like Mr Ball.

Yes Dear, 
Whatever you say, dear. 
Now run along out and play. 


THIS is what Jewish cosmology looed like. 
https://icsresources.org/wp-content/uplo...logies.pdf
You bullshit, is as usual, irrelevant.

What we se here is more of what happens when idiots say they do "self study', under NO expert supervision, and thinking they are experts themselves. Total bullshit is all you get.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblical_c...(after%20c.

"The ancient Israelites envisaged the universe as a flat disc-shaped Earth floating on water, heaven above, underworld below.[6] Humans inhabited Earth during life and the underworld after death; there was no way that mortals could enter heaven, and the underworld was morally neutral; only in Hellenistic times (after c. 330 BCE) did Jews begin to adopt the Greek idea that it would be a place of punishment for misdeeds, and that the righteous would enjoy an afterlife in heaven. In this period too the older three-level cosmology in large measure gave way to the Greek concept of a spherical Earth suspended in space at the center of a number of concentric heavens."

The Flammarion engraving never appeared until the 1880's. It cannot be attributed to the ancient Hebres, (LOLOL) or even in the German Renaissance.
ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME ? The Flammarion ? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flammarion_engraving
You are even more ignorant we could have possibly imagined.

(September 20, 2023 at 9:58 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: Yes Dear, 
Whatever you say, dear. 
Now run along out and play. 

THIS is what Jewish cosmology looed like. 
https://icsresources.org/wp-content/uplo...logies.pdf
You bullshit, is as usual, irrelevant.

That's just a modern artist rendition of the Flammarion engraving I posted with a traditional (Judaism?) twist. The Bible doesn't comport with that nonsense. It says the earth is round. A circle, globe or sphere. Isaiah 40:27.