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RE: Science of Atheism
September 20, 2023 at 10:24 pm
If the Bible teaches the Earth is a sphere I wonder what is the latitude and longitude where the pillars intersect the surface.
1 Samuel 2:8 He raiseth up the poor out of the dust, and lifteth up the beggar from the dunghill, to set them among princes, and to make them inherit the throne of glory: for the pillars of the earth are the LORD's, and he hath set the world upon them.
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RE: Science of Atheism
September 20, 2023 at 10:33 pm
the pillars are at the center of the surface of the sphere! where else?
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RE: Science of Atheism
September 20, 2023 at 10:45 pm
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RE: Science of Atheism
September 20, 2023 at 10:45 pm
(This post was last modified: September 20, 2023 at 11:14 pm by Bucky Ball.)
(September 20, 2023 at 10:19 pm)Data Wrote: (September 20, 2023 at 9:58 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: Yes Dear,
Whatever you say, dear.
Now run along out and play.
THIS is what Jewish cosmology looed like.
https://icsresources.org/wp-content/uplo...logies.pdf
You bullshit, is as usual, irrelevant.
That's just a modern artist rendition of the Flammarion engraving I posted with a traditional (Judaism?) twist. The Bible doesn't comport with that nonsense. It says the earth is round. A circle, globe or sphere. Isaiah 40:27.
No, that's the UNIVERSE. NOT the "Earth". I said "cosmology" sweetie, not the Earth. Too bad your comprehension is so bad. The image I posted comports EXACTLTY with what the Jews thought. You are SO ignorant you don't even know what the (flat earth and the FIRMAMANT TOGETHER looked like). You're embarrassing yourself again.
Even as late as the Christian era, they STILL believed in the 4 pillars of the Earth. It was Irenaeus's justification for the 4 Gospels. "Just as there are 4 winds, and 4 pillars the earth stands on ... so there are 4 gospels." LMAO
The Flammarion engraving never appeared until the 1880's. It cannot be attributed to the ancient Hebrews, (LOLOL) or even in the German Renaissance.
ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME ? The Flammarion ? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flammarion_engraving
You are even more ignorant we could have possibly imagined.
Every religion is true one way or another. It is true when understood metaphorically. But when it gets stuck in its own metaphors, interpreting them as facts, then you are in trouble. - Joseph Campbell
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RE: Science of Atheism
September 21, 2023 at 4:58 am
(This post was last modified: September 21, 2023 at 4:59 am by Data.)
(September 20, 2023 at 10:24 pm)LinuxGal Wrote: If the Bible teaches the Earth is a sphere I wonder what is the latitude and longitude where the pillars intersect the surface.
1 Samuel 2:8 He raiseth up the poor out of the dust, and lifteth up the beggar from the dunghill, to set them among princes, and to make them inherit the throne of glory: for the pillars of the earth are the LORD's, and he hath set the world upon them.
What is the foundation of Democracy? What is the cornerstone of marriage? Do people still use the phrase sunset and sunrise? What are the pillars of, foundation of, cornerstone of, four corners of the globe? The thing is, in order to make the Bible appear silly, the fundamentalist militant atheists have to be hyper literalists.
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RE: Science of Atheism
September 21, 2023 at 5:07 am
I've met serious Hebrew bible scholars who took Genesis literally and believed in a solid firmament.
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RE: Science of Atheism
September 21, 2023 at 5:50 am
(September 21, 2023 at 5:07 am)FrustratedFool Wrote: I've met serious Hebrew bible scholars who took Genesis literally and believed in a solid firmament.
I've met Hebrew scholars who were heavily influenced by silly traditions as well as Christians scholars who believe the Bible says the soul is mortal Ezekiel 18:4; Matthew 10:28. Scholars are idiots too. Religious scholars school in tradition, not facts. There is a difference between theology and Biblical study. Put simply (watch @ Bucky Ball) theology is what the Bible might mean and Biblical is what the Bible actually says.
I'm having too much fun.
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RE: Science of Atheism
September 21, 2023 at 5:55 am
(This post was last modified: September 21, 2023 at 5:56 am by Data.)
(September 20, 2023 at 10:45 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: (September 20, 2023 at 10:19 pm)Data Wrote: That's just a modern artist rendition of the Flammarion engraving I posted with a traditional (Judaism?) twist. The Bible doesn't comport with that nonsense. It says the earth is round. A circle, globe or sphere. Isaiah 40:27.
No, that's the UNIVERSE. NOT the "Earth". I said "cosmology" sweetie, not the Earth. Too bad your comprehension is so bad. The image I posted comports EXACTLTY with what the Jews thought. You are SO ignorant you don't even know what the (flat earth and the FIRMAMANT TOGETHER looked like). You're embarrassing yourself again.
Even as late as the Christian era, they STILL believed in the 4 pillars of the Earth. It was Irenaeus's justification for the 4 Gospels. "Just as there are 4 winds, and 4 pillars the earth stands on ... so there are 4 gospels." LMAO
The Flammarion engraving never appeared until the 1880's. It cannot be attributed to the ancient Hebrews, (LOLOL) or even in the German Renaissance.
ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME ? The Flammarion ? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flammarion_engraving
You are even more ignorant we could have possibly imagined.
I'm sorry, you're just too arrogant to make your stupidity understandable. It's very difficult for me to sympathize with you. If you were a fraction as informed as you think you are and half as self aware and humble as you ought to be maybe I could, but I just don't feel compelled to discuss with you, much like "Christians" you should know better. So, it's not my problem or entertaining for me. And that actually pisses me off, because, well, you could be.
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RE: Science of Atheism
September 21, 2023 at 6:05 am
(September 21, 2023 at 5:50 am)Data Wrote: (September 21, 2023 at 5:07 am)FrustratedFool Wrote: I've met serious Hebrew bible scholars who took Genesis literally and believed in a solid firmament.
I've met Hebrew scholars who were heavily influenced by silly traditions as well as Christians scholars who believe the Bible says the soul is mortal Ezekiel 18:4; Matthew 10:28. Scholars are idiots too. Religious scholars school in tradition, not facts. There is a difference between theology and Biblical study. Put simply (watch @Bucky Ball) theology is what the Bible might mean and Biblical is what the Bible actually says.
I'm having too much fun.
They were biblical scholars not theologians. Theologians tend to go with Genesis being a tribal origin myth, poetry or a the such like.
The bible doesn't say anything without interpretation.
But it doesn't matter. Both the bible and theology are false.
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RE: Science of Atheism
September 21, 2023 at 7:06 am
Time to shoot this dog?
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