(September 28, 2023 at 3:10 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:

(September 28, 2023 at 2:54 pm)Ahriman Wrote: Humans have been around for many thousands of years, and during all that time, most people were or are religious. You don't think religion might have something to do with keeping humanity alive?

We also evolved to have appendices that can burst and kill us. What's your point, again? An assumption that religion is good for humanity? Demonstrate it.

People need religion, it's in their blood. If they don't put their faith in any known world religion, they will simply put it elsewhere, e.g. celebrity worship.

Learn the difference between need and want. An irrational thought process wants that which does not exist, while needs are easily met by reality.

(September 28, 2023 at 3:29 pm)Foxaèr Wrote: Learn the difference between need and want. An irrational thought process wants that which does not exist, while needs are easily met by reality.

Needs are easily met by reality? That's irrational by itself.

(September 28, 2023 at 3:27 pm)Ahriman Wrote: People need religion, it's in their blood. If they don't put their faith in any known world religion, they will simply put it elsewhere, e.g. celebrity worship.

That's a far cry from demonstrating that religion is good for humanity. I'm left to assume you're unable to provide such demonstration.

What you wrote above is a bald claim bereft of support. As such, it merits no further reply.

(September 28, 2023 at 3:27 pm)Ahriman Wrote:

(September 28, 2023 at 3:10 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: We also evolved to have appendices that can burst and kill us. What's your point, again? An assumption that religion is good for humanity? Demonstrate it.

People need religion, it's in their blood. If they don't put their faith in any known world religion, they will simply put it elsewhere, e.g. celebrity worship.

Addicts need heroin, it’s in their blood. If they don’t put their faith in heroin, they will simply put it elsewhere, e.g. fentanyl.

Boru

(September 28, 2023 at 3:31 pm)Ahriman Wrote:

(September 28, 2023 at 3:29 pm)Foxaèr Wrote: Learn the difference between need and want. An irrational thought process wants that which does not exist, while needs are easily met by reality.

Needs are easily met by reality? That's irrational by itself.

I am not privy to knowledge of your personal life, except that which you have shared here like your desire for food and sex, but I am fairly certain your basic needs are met by a secular reality. You seek god because you have not yet self actualized. And with god taking up space in your mind, you will not find it.

(September 28, 2023 at 3:27 pm)Ahriman Wrote:

(September 28, 2023 at 3:10 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: We also evolved to have appendices that can burst and kill us. What's your point, again? An assumption that religion is good for humanity? Demonstrate it.

People need religion, it's in their blood. If they don't put their faith in any known world religion, they will simply put it elsewhere, e.g. celebrity worship.

That sounds fine to me. Celebrity worshipers don't push for laws to keep two menfolk or two womenfolk from getting hitched.

(September 28, 2023 at 1:28 pm)Ahriman Wrote:

(September 28, 2023 at 1:17 pm)Foxaèr Wrote: Which is entirely dependent on where you want to reside. In reality with the rest of us where the evidence is required or alone in your head with the fantasy?

Reality is what you make it. The "evidence-based" reality is not the only valid reality.

A "reality" which offers no evidence is indistinguishable from fantasy.

(September 28, 2023 at 8:09 pm)LinuxGal Wrote:

(September 28, 2023 at 3:27 pm)Ahriman Wrote: People need religion, it's in their blood. If they don't put their faith in any known world religion, they will simply put it elsewhere, e.g. celebrity worship.

That sounds fine to me. Celebrity worshipers don't push for laws to keep two menfolk or two womenfolk from getting hitched.

That may depend on which celeb they kneel to.

(September 28, 2023 at 4:43 pm)Foxaèr Wrote:

(September 28, 2023 at 3:31 pm)Ahriman Wrote: Needs are easily met by reality? That's irrational by itself.

I am not privy to knowledge of your personal life, except that which you have shared here like your desire for food and sex, but I am fairly certain your basic needs are met by a secular reality. You seek god because you have not yet self actualized. And with god taking up space in your mind, you will not find it.

Or is it that I have self actualized, and am looking for more, via seeking God?