(September 28, 2023 at 2:54 pm)Ahriman Wrote:

(September 28, 2023 at 2:49 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: That whoosh you're hearing is my point flying past you. Your proper order of operations is to think before you post.

Humans have been around for many thousands of years, and during all that time, most people were or are religious. You don't think religion might have something to do with keeping humanity alive?

Religion has something to do with killing this poor fellow:

Numbers 15:

[32] And while the children of Israel were in the wilderness, they found a man that gathered sticks upon the sabbath day.

[33] And they that found him gathering sticks brought him unto Moses and Aaron, and unto all the congregation.

[34] And they put him in ward, because it was not declared what should be done to him.

[35] And the LORD said unto Moses, The man shall be surely put to death: all the congregation shall stone him with stones without the camp.

[36] And all the congregation brought him without the camp, and stoned him with stones, and he died; as the LORD commanded Moses.

(September 28, 2023 at 8:55 pm)LinuxGal Wrote:

(September 28, 2023 at 2:54 pm)Ahriman Wrote: Humans have been around for many thousands of years, and during all that time, most people were or are religious. You don't think religion might have something to do with keeping humanity alive?

Religion has something to do with killing this poor fellow:

Numbers 15:

[32] And while the children of Israel were in the wilderness, they found a man that gathered sticks upon the sabbath day.

[33] And they that found him gathering sticks brought him unto Moses and Aaron, and unto all the congregation.

[34] And they put him in ward, because it was not declared what should be done to him.

[35] And the LORD said unto Moses, The man shall be surely put to death: all the congregation shall stone him with stones without the camp.

[36] And all the congregation brought him without the camp, and stoned him with stones, and he died; as the LORD commanded Moses.

Well that's just the Bible. Not sure why you would quote such an untruthful source.

(September 28, 2023 at 1:02 pm)Ahriman Wrote:

(September 28, 2023 at 12:57 pm)Foxaèr Wrote: Can you prove he exists outside of your mind?

No, and it doesn't matter that I can't.

I can prove that he does NOT exist outside of your mind.

Psalm 147:5 Great is our Lord, and of great power: his understanding is infinite.

Genesis 18:21 I will go down now, and see whether they have done altogether according to the cry of it, which is come unto me; and if not, I will know.

In case that flew over your head, a being with infinite knowledge cannot simultaneously have conditional knowledge.

(September 28, 2023 at 9:00 pm)Ahriman Wrote: Well that's just the Bible. Not sure why you would quote such an untruthful source.

Because (I'll say it ONE more time) the god of the Bible (or the Qu'ran) is the god I already know does not exist.  If you believe in a different god then you have yet to convince me it does exist.

(September 28, 2023 at 9:07 pm)LinuxGal Wrote:

(September 28, 2023 at 9:00 pm)Ahriman Wrote: Well that's just the Bible. Not sure why you would quote such an untruthful source.

Because (I'll say it ONE more time) the god of the Bible (or the Qu'ran) is the god I already know does not exist.  If you believe in a different god then you have yet to convince me it does exist.

If the God of the Bible does not exist, then why would you use the Bible as proof of anything?

(September 28, 2023 at 9:20 pm)Ahriman Wrote:

(September 28, 2023 at 9:07 pm)LinuxGal Wrote: Because (I'll say it ONE more time) the god of the Bible (or the Qu'ran) is the god I already know does not exist.  If you believe in a different god then you have yet to convince me it does exist.

If the God of the Bible does not exist, then why would you use the Bible as proof of anything?

If you said you believed that Gandalf was the One, then I would use the writings of Tolkien to prove to you that Gandalf was actually just Olorin of the order of Maiar, without for one moment believing that the theology of Middle-Earth was true in a scientific sense.

(September 28, 2023 at 9:29 pm)LinuxGal Wrote:

(September 28, 2023 at 9:20 pm)Ahriman Wrote: If the God of the Bible does not exist, then why would you use the Bible as proof of anything?

If you said you believed that Gandalf was the One, then I would use the writings of Tolkien to prove to you that Gandalf was actually just Olorin of the order of Maiar, without for one moment believing that the theology of Middle-Earth was true in a scientific sense.

Lol okay? You don't think Gandalf is real but you will go out of your way to prove something about him?

(September 28, 2023 at 9:34 pm)Ahriman Wrote:

(September 28, 2023 at 9:29 pm)LinuxGal Wrote: If you said you believed that Gandalf was the One, then I would use the writings of Tolkien to prove to you that Gandalf was actually just Olorin of the order of Maiar, without for one moment believing that the theology of Middle-Earth was true in a scientific sense.

Lol okay? You don't think Gandalf is real but you will go out of your way to prove something about him?

Did you know the first word in my reply to you was "IF" ?

(September 28, 2023 at 9:36 pm)LinuxGal Wrote:

(September 28, 2023 at 9:34 pm)Ahriman Wrote: Lol okay? You don't think Gandalf is real but you will go out of your way to prove something about him?

Did you know the first word in my reply to you was "IF" ?

You were proposing a scenario that might actually happen in real life.

(September 28, 2023 at 8:51 pm)Ahriman Wrote:

(September 28, 2023 at 4:43 pm)Foxaèr Wrote: I am not privy to knowledge of your personal life, except that which you have shared here like your desire for food and sex, but I am fairly certain your basic needs are met by a secular reality. You seek god because you have not yet self actualized. And with god taking up space in your mind, you will not find it.

Or is it that I have self actualized, and am looking for more, via seeking God?

Yeah, no.