From my understanding, has it not been decades, half a century, even, of both sides fighting one another with no indication of either side willing to concede to the other for peace?

(October 10, 2023 at 8:22 pm)LinuxGal Wrote:

(October 10, 2023 at 7:51 pm)WinterHold Wrote: I always trace it the beginning: there was no "Israel" in the past, Israel was manufactured by Britain after WW1 on top of Palestinian lands

The area of the West Bank north of Jerusalem was Samaria, the northern kingdom of the Israelite federation of tribes.  Wikipedia sez, "The earliest mention is from the Kurkh stela of c.853 BCE, when Shalmaneser III mentions "Ahab the Israelite", plus the denominative for "land", and his ten thousand troops."

Then there was "the Kingdom of Samaria" , there wasn't the racist fascist British colony named "Israel" by the British.
That fascist British colony is plagiarizing the ancient Israeli kingdom and trying so desperately to resurrect a carbon copy.

(October 10, 2023 at 9:41 pm)WinterHold Wrote:

(October 10, 2023 at 8:22 pm)LinuxGal Wrote: The area of the West Bank north of Jerusalem was Samaria, the northern kingdom of the Israelite federation of tribes.  Wikipedia sez, "The earliest mention is from the Kurkh stela of c.853 BCE, when Shalmaneser III mentions "Ahab the Israelite", plus the denominative for "land", and his ten thousand troops."

Then there was "the Kingdom of Samaria" , there wasn't the racist fascist British colony named "Israel" by the British.
That fascist British colony is plagiarizing the ancient Israeli kingdom and trying so desperately to resurrect a carbon copy.

The 853 BCE mention of Ahab the Israelite is the big takeaway there.  In a parallel universe I'm an Assyriologist.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Assyriologists

The Merneptah Stele from 12th century BCE Egypt mentions the kingdom of Israel specifically 

Quote:The princes are prostrate, saying ‘Peace!’
Not one raises his head among the Nine Bows.
Desolation is for Tjehenu;
Hatti is pacified;
Plundered is the Canaan with every evil;
Carried off is Asqaluni;
Seized upon is Gezer;
Yanoam is made non-existent;
Israel is laid waste—its seed is no more;
Kharru has become a widow because of Egypt.
All lands together are pacified.
Everyone who was restless has been bound.

What would happen if Israel attempts to displace the Palenstinian population and take Gaza entire?

(October 10, 2023 at 3:37 pm)WinterHold Wrote: Hamas does treat Jews like human beings though; they are not ISIS.

It did not. It killed hundreds of innocent civilians, just a couple of days ago. You seen to have the (selective!) Attention span of a fruit fly

(October 10, 2023 at 7:51 pm)WinterHold Wrote: Israelies are invaders from the get go, and Palestinians are the natives. That's history speaking, not me.

They were "invading" with a mandate of the league of nations, right?

Quote:Hamas does treat Jews like human beings though; they are not ISIS.

They mowed down people at a rave. They have engaged in the mistreatment of prisoners. This statement rings hallow.

Quote:What would happen if Israel attempts to displace the Palenstinian population and take Gaza entire?

To be fair they are kind of trying that just slowly .Though that doesn't justify mass slaughter.

Quote:Israelies are invaders from the get go, and Palestinians are the natives. That's history speaking, not me.

Most of the people Hamas killed or kidnapped were not even alive when Israeli was founded so calling them invaders is stupid. How many generations does the title invader last? After all the Palestinians (Canaanites)were invaders once too.