Drugs do have serious side effects, but there is no way they are just placebo. I can attest to that personally.

What drugs was mommy doing while she was pregnant with you?

(January 21, 2024 at 1:51 am)no one Wrote: What drugs was mommy doing while she was pregnant with you?

Cocaine, probably. My dad's side of the family was (and is) very rich. But I meant prescription drugs.

Anti-depressants "work" for me, to varying degrees. I'm still suffering, but I guess nothing is going to change that.

(January 21, 2024 at 3:10 am)Ahriman Wrote: Anti-depressants "work" for me, to varying degrees. I'm still suffering, but I guess nothing is going to change that.

I'm glad they work for you, even if it's only a little bit. I wish there were more that could be done.

This is why the pharmaceutical scandals are so particularly immoral. They directly affect health and well-being. If we hadn't lost years chasing false hopes about poorly-researched for-profit medicines, we might have put effort into more effective remedies by this time. 

Probably you're read about the Sackler family and their intentional misinformation regarding Oxycontin. The fact that they could ruin so many lives and still remain out of prison is proof of how deadly it is to mix medicine with the profit motive. If Chinese billionaires had told such lies they'd be executed. 

Anyway, I hope that things can go better for you in the future.

(January 21, 2024 at 4:00 am)Belacqua Wrote:

(January 21, 2024 at 3:10 am)Ahriman Wrote: Anti-depressants "work" for me, to varying degrees. I'm still suffering, but I guess nothing is going to change that.

I'm glad they work for you, even if it's only a little bit. I wish there were more that could be done.

This is why the pharmaceutical scandals are so particularly immoral. They directly affect health and well-being. If we hadn't lost years chasing false hopes about poorly-researched for-profit medicines, we might have put effort into more effective remedies by this time. 

Probably you're read about the Sackler family and their intentional misinformation regarding Oxycontin. The fact that they could ruin so many lives and still remain out of prison is proof of how deadly it is to mix medicine with the profit motive. If Chinese billionaires had told such lies they'd be executed. 

Anyway, I hope that things can go better for you in the future.

I'm not familiar with that. What happened?

(January 21, 2024 at 4:27 am)Ahriman Wrote:

(January 21, 2024 at 4:00 am)Belacqua Wrote: I'm glad they work for you, even if it's only a little bit. I wish there were more that could be done.

This is why the pharmaceutical scandals are so particularly immoral. They directly affect health and well-being. If we hadn't lost years chasing false hopes about poorly-researched for-profit medicines, we might have put effort into more effective remedies by this time. 

Probably you're read about the Sackler family and their intentional misinformation regarding Oxycontin. The fact that they could ruin so many lives and still remain out of prison is proof of how deadly it is to mix medicine with the profit motive. If Chinese billionaires had told such lies they'd be executed. 

Anyway, I hope that things can go better for you in the future.

I'm not familiar with that. What happened?

This is from Wikipedia:

Quote:The Sackler family is an American family who owned the pharmaceutical company Purdue Pharma and later founded Mundipharma.[1] Purdue Pharma, and some members of the family, have faced lawsuits regarding overprescription of addictive pharmaceutical drugs, including OxyContin. Purdue Pharma has been criticized for its role in the opioid epidemic in the United States.[2][3][4] They have been described as the "most evil family in America",[5][6][7][8] and "the worst drug dealers in history".[9][10]

The Sackler family has been profiled in various media, including the documentary Crime of the Century on HBO, the book Empire of Pain by Patrick Radden Keefe, the 2021 Hulu miniseries Dopesick, the 2022 Oscar-nominated documentary All the Beauty and the Bloodshed and the 2023 Netflix mini-series Painkiller.

They knew their new painkiller was addictive, but claimed it wasn't. Then they advertised it hard, and gave doctors incentives to prescribe it. A huge number of people were told they couldn't get addicted, but then they did. Since it's an opioid, when addicts couldn't get prescriptions or black market Oxy any more they just turned to heroin, which is cheaper and more readily available. 

In America rich people don't get punished, so the Sacklers have been fined, but their lawyers continue to fight everything in court. 

It's the poster child for why medicine and the profit motive don't work together.

(January 21, 2024 at 5:46 am)Belacqua Wrote:

(January 21, 2024 at 4:27 am)Ahriman Wrote: I'm not familiar with that. What happened?

This is from Wikipedia:

Quote:The Sackler family is an American family who owned the pharmaceutical company Purdue Pharma and later founded Mundipharma.[1] Purdue Pharma, and some members of the family, have faced lawsuits regarding overprescription of addictive pharmaceutical drugs, including OxyContin. Purdue Pharma has been criticized for its role in the opioid epidemic in the United States.[2][3][4] They have been described as the "most evil family in America",[5][6][7][8] and "the worst drug dealers in history".[9][10]

The Sackler family has been profiled in various media, including the documentary Crime of the Century on HBO, the book Empire of Pain by Patrick Radden Keefe, the 2021 Hulu miniseries Dopesick, the 2022 Oscar-nominated documentary All the Beauty and the Bloodshed and the 2023 Netflix mini-series Painkiller.

They knew their new painkiller was addictive, but claimed it wasn't. Then they advertised it hard, and gave doctors incentives to prescribe it. A huge number of people were told they couldn't get addicted, but then they did. Since it's an opioid, when addicts couldn't get prescriptions or black market Oxy any more they just turned to heroin, which is cheaper and more readily available. 

In America rich people don't get punished, so the Sacklers have been fined, but their lawyers continue to fight everything in court. 

It's the poster child for why medicine and the profit motive don't work together.

Okay, so obviously the family is being used as a scapegoat. It's extremely obvious.