You've heard it before, right? God exists outside... Outside of time, reality, existence
If a creator god is outside of existence, isn't it dead?  IDK

The next time I hear someone claim that a creator god is outside of time or reality, 
I'll be exiting to witness it's existence.

FSM exists both in and out of our existence vis Xis cosmic revolving door.

RAmen

If something is outside of existence that would mean it doesn't exist!

(December 18, 2024 at 12:32 am)PhCritique Wrote: If a creator god is outside of existence, isn't it dead?  IDK

No - He is not called the "Living God" for no reason, though what life would mean for Him would approach more the Platonian Idealism "form" than the materialistic interpretation of it we as humans are by default locked into.

(December 18, 2024 at 12:32 am)PhCritique Wrote: You've heard it before, right? God exists outside... Outside of time, reality, existence
If a creator god is outside of existence, isn't it dead?  IDK

The next time I hear someone claim that a creator god is outside of time or reality, 
I'll be exiting to witness it's existence.

Existence is defined as "the fact or state of living, or having objective reality." If something is outside of objective reality, then by definition it doesn't exist. Though of course this usually devolves into semantics. So when someone claims something exists, it is for them to be clear about what they mean, and to accurately define it, and then ultimately offer something approaching objective evidence. 

Superman exists, but only in our comic books, and films. If someone claims he is objectively real, then lets see the objective reality that evidences that existence outside of the human imagination. Otherwise I must remain dubious.

(December 18, 2024 at 4:43 am)TheWhiteMarten Wrote:

(December 18, 2024 at 12:32 am)PhCritique Wrote: If a creator god is outside of existence, isn't it dead?  IDK

No - He is not called the "Living God" for no reason, though what life would mean for Him would approach more the Platonian Idealism "form" than the materialistic interpretation of it we as humans are by default locked into.

Have you got anything beyond that bare unevidenced claim? Otherwise one could believe literally anything, certainly in any number of deities humans have imagined.

(December 18, 2024 at 4:43 am)TheWhiteMarten Wrote:

(December 18, 2024 at 12:32 am)PhCritique Wrote: If a creator god is outside of existence, isn't it dead?  IDK

No - He is not called the "Living God" for no reason, though what life would mean for Him would approach more the Platonian Idealism "form" than the materialistic interpretation of it we as humans are by default locked into.

This sort of thing is likely to get you beaten senseless (metaphorically speaking) by a Nominalist. God botherers glommed on to Platonic Forms as a convenient was to claim that things which don't exist actually do. You ignorant wretch.

Boru

(December 18, 2024 at 5:28 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(December 18, 2024 at 4:43 am)TheWhiteMarten Wrote: No - He is not called the "Living God" for no reason, though what life would mean for Him would approach more the Platonian Idealism "form" than the materialistic interpretation of it we as humans are by default locked into.

This sort of thing is likely to get you beaten senseless (metaphorically speaking) by a Nominalist. God botherers glommed on to Platonic Forms as a convenient was to claim that things which don't exist actually do. You ignorant wretch.

Boru

Oh feck, @Belaqua's gonna love that...

(December 18, 2024 at 4:43 am)TheWhiteMarten Wrote:

(December 18, 2024 at 12:32 am)PhCritique Wrote: If a creator god is outside of existence, isn't it dead?  IDK

No - He is not called the "Living God" for no reason, though what life would mean for Him would approach more the Platonian Idealism "form" than the materialistic interpretation of it we as humans are by default locked into.

How did your godthing come to exist and become living?

I’m predicting special pleading that it always existed, right @TheWhiteMarten

(December 18, 2024 at 4:43 am)TheWhiteMarten Wrote:

(December 18, 2024 at 12:32 am)PhCritique Wrote: If a creator god is outside of existence, isn't it dead?  IDK

No - He is not called the "Living God" for no reason, though what life would mean for Him would approach more the Platonian Idealism "form" than the materialistic interpretation of it we as humans are by default locked into.

Playing make believe again. What's next, dress up?