(February 11, 2025 at 7:51 pm)Belacqua Wrote:

(February 11, 2025 at 6:00 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote: And I quote, "If it were entirely red, it would not be a rose. If it were entirely a rose, it would not be red."

Where's the straw man?

There's no straw man there. 

Somebody needs to learn the difference between essence and accident.

And somebody needs to remember our prior discussion about referencing someone they have on ignore.

Boru

(February 11, 2025 at 5:34 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote:

(February 11, 2025 at 5:25 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: But that object is neither entire red nor entirely a rose - part of it is red, part of it is a rose, If it were entirely red, it would not be a rose. If it were entirely a rose, it would not be red.

That's such an incoherent argument lol.

It doesn't use a known common logical fallacy, as yours did....lol.

Sorry, not buying the whole mortal god schtick.

Yeah, visual aids may be the way to go.

Here is a rose that is not entirely red nor entirely a flower:



Here is something that is entirely red and is not a rose:



Here is what we traditionally call 'a red rose', but is not entirely red nor entirely a flower:



Here is something that is entirely a god:



Here is something that is entirely human:



Here is something that is part human, part god, but not entirely either:



I hope this helps, John.

Boru

Quote:John 6IX Breezy Wrote:

You can be 100% a man and 100% European because not every category excludes another.

Nobody is 100% European, our ancestors first evolved in Africa.

(February 12, 2025 at 6:02 am)Sheldon Wrote:

Quote:John 6IX Breezy Wrote:

You can be 100% a man and 100% European because not every category excludes another.

Nobody is 100% European, our ancestors first evolved in Africa.

Also, ‘man’ and ‘European’ are not mutually exclusive categories. John would have use believe that you can be 100% a man and 100% stainless steel cheese grater.

Boru

(February 10, 2025 at 9:38 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote:

(February 10, 2025 at 9:31 pm)Paleophyte Wrote: No, but that's what you get for swapping verbs out. Your male has happiness. Your god is abstract. That which is abstract is not concrete. Not an atom of happiness to be found.

The man is happy is a coherent English sentence.

(February 12, 2025 at 7:10 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(February 12, 2025 at 6:02 am)Sheldon Wrote: Nobody is 100% European, our ancestors first evolved in Africa.

Also, ‘man’ and ‘European’ are not mutually exclusive categories. John would have use believe that you can be 100% a man and 100% stainless steel cheese grater.

Boru

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(February 12, 2025 at 10:38 am)Nay_Sayer Wrote:

I'll have you know Mr.Shred is very real and is a philanthropist.  50% of Gratr™ profits go to charity.

Grate joke

(February 12, 2025 at 7:10 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Also, ‘man’ and ‘European’ are not mutually exclusive categories.

Exactly; I'm glad you're beginning to understand.

(February 11, 2025 at 10:46 pm)Paleophyte Wrote: Sorry, not buying the whole mortal god schtick.

To my knowledge blue roses aren't real but pink roses are as well as white and purple orange and even green