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Conundrum
March 29, 2012 at 8:04 pm
Hell isn't for evildoers, it's for unbelievers.
You can commit as much evil as you like and still get into heaven.
If you're not supposed to ride faster than your guardian angel can fly then mine had better get a bloody SR-71.
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RE: Conundrum
March 29, 2012 at 11:53 pm
Last person I heard say "punish evildoers" with a straight face bombed Iraq.
"A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything." -Friedrich Nietzsche
"All thinking men are atheists." -Ernest Hemmingway
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." -Voltaire
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RE: Conundrum
March 30, 2012 at 2:14 am
(This post was last modified: March 30, 2012 at 2:18 am by Godscreated.)
(March 29, 2012 at 8:04 pm)Zen Badger Wrote: Hell isn't for evildoers, it's for unbelievers.
You can commit as much evil as you like and still get into heaven.
Prove your statement from the scriptures, there is no other place to find the answer for this.
(March 29, 2012 at 4:54 pm)NonStampCollector Wrote: (March 29, 2012 at 4:24 pm)Godschild Wrote: Again no, God's will wasn't having Lucifer to turn against Him
Kinda shoots down the whole idea of omnipotence then, huh?
What does omnipotence have to do with what I said?
(March 29, 2012 at 7:59 pm)BoyWonder Wrote: (March 29, 2012 at 4:24 pm)Godschild Wrote: What God wants from us is our love.
Aha! So he IS a dirty old paedophile after all! I knew it!
Thanks for clearing that up, Godschild.
Think whatever you like, I want discuss points with a senseless person.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: Conundrum
March 30, 2012 at 2:30 am
The new guy has a winning personality and a piercing wit. Somehow I'm just not ready to commit to him yet. Sounds like someone who is carrying a lot of rage about having been made to go to Sunday school.
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RE: Conundrum
March 30, 2012 at 10:58 am
The thing is that Christians will see Satan as not the punisher of evildoers in Hell, but he is the bad guy who is constantly trying to get God's children to turn against him so that he will have plenty of company in Hell after the end of the world when he is forced to spend eternity there. The point where this falls apart is thinking that somehow Satan turns people away from God, and so makes God punish people for eternity even though he really doesn't want to because he loves them. So I don't know if this makes Satan more powerful than God because for some reason God can't change the system he set up where he sends unbelievers and evildoers to Hell to be tortured for eternity.
Christian apologetics is the art of rolling a dog turd in sugar and selling it as a donut.