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Redeeming the American Way
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RE: Redeeming the American Way
leo-rcc,

Well said, I'm glad you brought that up. I believe most Americans today, and especially during the war, were sold a load of patriotic garbage about beating fascism. Then from fascism we focused on communism. Then from communism it became Muslim extremists. The point being, Macarthur was right; the US government loves keeping its citizens in a perpetual state of fear. It is hard for me to see the US as some boy scout of the world. It is much more believeable to see her as motivated by economic reasons, rather than humanitarian.
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(August 19, 2009 at 11:21 am)jonathanwithaj Wrote: leo-rcc,

Well said, I'm glad you brought that up. I believe most Americans today, and especially during the war, were sold a load of patriotic garbage about beating fascism. Then from fascism we focused on communism. Then from communism it became Muslim extremists. The point being, Macarthur was right; the US government loves keeping its citizens in a perpetual state of fear. It is hard for me to see the US as some boy scout of the world. It is much more believeable to see her as motivated by economic reasons, rather than humanitarian.


An idea which far predates the U.S.

Quote:“When the tyrant has disposed of foreign enemies by conquest or treaty and there is nothing to fear from them, then he is always stirring up some war or other, in order that the people may require a leader.”

Plato
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(August 19, 2009 at 8:11 pm)Minimalist Wrote: An idea which far predates the U.S.

It looks like the Sumerians established the tradition as soon as the Anunaki had turned their backs. Ermm, I mean: had retreated into the heavens.
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(August 19, 2009 at 8:06 pm)padraic Wrote: The infamous propaganda film of Therienstadt was made in 1944 by a famous German Jewish actor/director,KURT GERON. He was then sent to Auschwitz along with his family and most of the participants of the film. They were gassed on arrival.
Not to mention he was assured the safety of himself and his family in exchange for making the film.

It never fails to amaze how how cruel and awful the Nazi regime was.

And to think, people are comparing President Obama trying to pass a healthcare bill to the establishment who pulled this shit.

Fuck.
- Meatball
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Quote:people are comparing President Obama


They are merely racists, Meatball. When they talk about "wanting their country back" they are not talking about "health care." They want a dumb old white man back in charge.
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Minimalist,

Ramen!
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(August 20, 2009 at 3:25 pm)Meatball Wrote: It never fails to amaze how how cruel and awful the Nazi regime was.

The regime that orchestrated 9/11 and its consequences is an even match, Meatball.

And so is the greed and stupidity that killed 5 million in the Congo, in the nineties. And still on-going. But you probably don't even know about that one.
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(August 22, 2009 at 2:09 pm)Rokcet Scientist Wrote:
(August 20, 2009 at 3:25 pm)Meatball Wrote: It never fails to amaze how how cruel and awful the Nazi regime was.

The regime that orchestrated 9/11 and its consequences is an even match, Meatball.



Bollocks. (in other words, kindly provide your evidence).
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