Hey Max Welcome to the forums....good luck on the debates yeah.

Wow are you lot DELUDED!

Arcanus and Jon Paul debate you all into the ground - I'm actually embarrassed at the lack of opposition. Jon Paul challenged you all and you have yet to make a slight impression let alone any serious rebuttal. Ass kicked? Yours surely has bin.

Us Christians have gotta go easy on you folks. Reasoning and logic doesn't come easy to you obviously. You cling on to marginalist crackpot philosophy like it actually makes sense. Kudos for that at least

@Frodo, in all seriousness, can you direct me to this christian PWNage you speak of...I'm new so I may have missed it, but I'd be interested to see it.

Reasoning and logic don't really matter when the other side just makes assumption after assumption, as they have. If that's "debate" then I'm unimpressed.

@ fr0d0, JP and Arcanus have given no evidence so all this speculation is just interesting speculation at most - untill evidence has been provided.

EvF

(August 21, 2009 at 3:54 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Wow are you lot DELUDED!

Arcanus and Jon Paul debate you all into the ground - I'm actually embarrassed at the lack of opposition. Jon Paul challenged you all and you have yet to make a slight impression let alone any serious rebuttal. Ass kicked? Yours surely has bin.

Us Christians have gotta go easy on you folks. Reasoning and logic doesn't come easy to you obviously. You cling on to marginalist crackpot philosophy like it actually makes sense. Kudos for that at least

Have you been reading the same threads as I have then? Because there is NOTHING from Jon Paul that even impressed me in the slightest.

Arcanus is doing a good job, in fact better than you have (no offense, just calling it as I see it). I still don't buy any of the bullshit but he at least raises the stakes a little.

I haven't been the least impressed by the resident bible-thumpers... They are fine as long as they talk about pie-in-the-sky but when it comes to specifics they are totally fucking useless.

Just like their god. Perhaps there is a correlation there?

Min, you took the words out of my mouth...

Frodo, please tell me what "Ass Kicking" you are referring to in regards to a debate about sky daddy and a mythological fairy tale book with giants and unicorns?

All I've seen come from any of them is a heap of Goddidit's, we know we are right because of this fairy tale guide, and prove it, prove it, prove it.....

As far as the prove its, it's not Atheist that have anything to prove about your fairy tale. We are not the ones with buildings on every other corner and men/women on pulpits screaming they know the truth and so on and so on....

If the Christians that come on this forum can not handle evidence which is presented (In many forms at that), or simply cannot understand rational thinking/logic....That's not my fault nor do I give a rats ass about why "They" believe the way they do....

Again, many here were Christians at one time in their life......

@ Rev

Jon Paul's thread is here: http://atheistforums.org/thread-1477-page-1.html

Arcanus: just search for his posts.

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Jon Paul has more than thoroughly answered every question put to him. He precisely addresses the subject. Show me one of JP's assumptions that isn't logically justified Adrian.

@ Evie LMAO @ Evidence (& @ you minimalist)

Want testable and reliable evidence, that satisfies the rigourous standards of the scientific method?

I'm impressed Leo. His (JP's) arguments are solid and remain unrefuted. I'd say both of them have done far better than me. No contest IMO.

@ Samson: if you think you have a serious contention go air it on the thread ...any last wishes?

The TAG argument relies on nothing but assumption. It assumes that there are no other explanations for things like logic, morality, etc and then goes on to assume that the Christian worldview is the only one that can explain them. The easiest rebuttal of it is to simply use the same argument but in regard to any other religion. If you suppose the Pastafarian worldview, everything fits as well!