(September 12, 2012 at 10:44 pm)Drich Wrote:

(September 11, 2012 at 10:08 pm)teaearlgreyhot Wrote: Wait, so repopulation is purely for counteracting your own limited lifespan?

Quote:Maybe that's why God created life?

God did not RE-produce. He PRODUCED.

Quote:Is God going to die?

No, but I know someone who is.

Reproduction is a type of production

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Quote:There's of course the whole issue of sin being inherited that you've neglected.

Book Chapter and verse that says sin is inherited? I've told you being born is not a sin.

Quote:Adam and Eve weren't "Born unto sin." Why should everyone else be?

Adam and Eve weren't born. Again God did not reproduce Adam and Eve.

What difference does that make? And even supposing it did make a difference, why didn't just God specially create everyone like he did Adam and Eve?

Godschild Wrote:Option 4. The one who gave the first 3 options has no idea what he/she is talking about.

And how would you know that any of those first 3 are wrong? Not that you would care about backing up your claims.

System of Solace Wrote:2. God is a major asshole.

I've noticed that this option doesn't seem to bother many theists. Apparently this isn't a problem when you're one of the elect.

I think there's more to be explored within this discussion that was happening here:


So God's plan was for A&E to be in a relationship with God forever while at the same time giving them reproductive systems for after the Fall? Ok, then:

1) God is malevolent, omnipotent and not omniscient, but instead has limited knowledge.
2) God is melevolent, omniscient and not omnipotent, but instead can't create whatever he desired.

Once again, your improvisation in discussion has lead to God being incompatible with himself. What's it going to be this time?

[quote='teaearlgreyhot' pid='335906' dateline='1347509457']
[quote]Reproduction is a type of production[/quote]Are you serious? Do you not understand the difference between making a copy of something and sculpting something orginal?

[quote]What difference does that make?[/quote]Because after the fall Adam and Eve coulld only make 'copies' of fallen man.

[quote] And even supposing it did make a difference, why didn't just God specially create everyone like he did Adam and Eve?[/quote]Because at the fall the reigns of this world were handed over to man. Meaning everything that happens in this realm/world is the responsiablity of man. God did not create new people because man took the task to recreate and fill this world.

Eating of the tree of knoweledge seperated man from God. So God gave man over (completely) to his desision to be seperated from Him.

(September 13, 2012 at 7:01 am)Faith No More Wrote:

System of Solace Wrote:2. God is a major asshole.

I've noticed that this option doesn't seem to bother many theists. Apparently this isn't a problem when you're one of the elect.

Or when you're an asshole, too. There's a lot of that among theists.

[quote='FallentoReason' pid='335975' dateline='1347535525']
[quote]I think there's more to be explored within this discussion that was happening here:[/quote]The only think to explore is the straw man you have created:

[quote]So God's plan was for A&E to be in a relationship with God forever [/quote]Who said anything, or better yet where is it written that God planned that Adam and Eve was to spend eternity in the Garden with God? Book, chapter and verse?

[quote]Once again, your improvisation in discussion has lead to God being incompatible with himself. What's it going to be this time?[/quote] before you put another undeserved notch in the corner of your monitor (to mark another perceived win) you need to account for the straw man you introduced into this discussion. Where is God proclaim that Adam and Eve were going to live with Him forever?

I know I did not say this because my whole 'orgins' theory is based on the idea God knew when the fall was going to be and planned Adam and Eve's physical bodies to be compatiable with the evolutionary progress happening outside the Garden.

Quote:I know I did not say this because my whole 'orgins' theory is based on the idea God knew when the fall was going to be and planned Adam and Eve's physical bodies to be compatiable with the evolutionary progress happening outside the Garden.

"I want you guys to evolve, yunno? I made you imperfect, probably because I meant to, since I'm all-powerful and shit, but I changed my mind and I want you to be more optimal. Now, I could just snap My fingers and you could be perfect, instantly.

And, yunno, I totally would do that. But, even though you're basically infantile and know nothing, I gave you a temptation impossible to resist, and of course, you didn't resist. So fuck you, you assholes can suffer. I'm going to make you age and die and be capable of evil so I can be even more pissed off at your kid when he kills his little brother because I love his stupid offering more... not that this is going to make me step in and stop it from happening, fuck that.

I'm really not a fucking asshole, though, so you guys better love me if you know what's good for you."

Where was Adam's first wife? You do know their was Lilith and she was first. Where was she when Eve was getting laid by Adam and eating that so called fruit.

(September 13, 2012 at 10:14 pm)zappa1258 Wrote: Where was Adam's first wife? You do know their was Lilith and she was first. Where was she when Eve was getting laid by Adam and eating that so called fruit.

I think your confusing the plot points of an HBO series with what is being discussed here.