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Question for Christians regarding elimination of Sin
January 20, 2017 at 11:04 pm
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Original sin means that every human being is born with sin.
So, Hypothetically, if a human baby grew up far away from any sort of contact with human civilisation or even animals, wouldn't the baby not "learn" how to sin? Human beings learn by seeing, by memorizing, by practicing and observing. So if a baby were to grow up somewhere where any sort of sin was not committed thereby not seeing or learning sin -
Would the baby grow up to be as someone born with "original sin" but never actually sinned in his entire life thereby not being born with "original sin"?
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RE: Question for Christians regarding elimination of Sin
January 20, 2017 at 11:09 pm
Original sin is inherent to the immortal soul.
So, once the fetus is delivered and inspirates it's first breath, it is condemned.
The granting of a pardon is an imputation of guilt, and the acceptance a confession of it.
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RE: Question for Christians regarding elimination of Sin
January 20, 2017 at 11:11 pm
Interesting hypothetical. I'd also like to see the Christian take on this. I know the specifics of the belief of original sin deviates from Christian to Christian. I wonder if that will be reflected here.
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RE: Question for Christians regarding elimination of Sin
January 21, 2017 at 12:43 am
Sin is everything that pisses off God.
The granting of a pardon is an imputation of guilt, and the acceptance a confession of it.
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RE: Question for Christians regarding elimination of Sin
January 21, 2017 at 1:29 am
(January 20, 2017 at 11:04 pm)pool the great Wrote: Original sin means that every human being is born with sin.
So, Hypothetically, if a human baby grew up far away from any sort of contact with human civilisation or even animals, wouldn't the baby not "learn" how to sin? Human beings learn by seeing, by memorizing, by practicing and observing. So if a baby were to grow up somewhere where any sort of sin was not committed thereby not seeing or learning sin -
Would the baby grow up to be as someone born with "original sin" but never actually sinned in his entire life thereby not being born with "original sin"?
Are you saying put a child in a completely sterile environment without any human influence, How would the child know how to do anything that resembles human behavior. Original sin is passed own to every child, so yes it would have original sin but, it would be judged by it's actions as long as it has no understanding of Christ.
You've put this child in an unreal situation wanting a normal answer, just doesn't seem possible to give a truly specific answer. You are also confusing original sin with a sinful act, your question is not specific enough.
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God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: Question for Christians regarding elimination of Sin
January 21, 2017 at 1:54 am
I'd describe it more as the potential to sin. And that we all *will* sin if we can... ie, no one is perfect. It's part of human nature.
This hypothetical person will still sin, even if he doesn't learn it from anyone, bc it's in his nature to do so.
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RE: Question for Christians regarding elimination of Sin
January 21, 2017 at 3:05 am
(January 21, 2017 at 1:54 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I'd describe it more as the potential to sin. And that we all *will* sin if we can... ie, no one is perfect. It's part of human nature.
This hypothetical person will still sin, even if he doesn't learn it from anyone, bc it's in his nature to do so.
Yeah, that's the kind of answer I was looking for, whether a person will sin if they didn't even know what sin was. Wouldn't God cut his some slack though, since he probably doesn't know what a sin is in the first place?
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RE: Question for Christians regarding elimination of Sin
January 21, 2017 at 3:40 am
(January 21, 2017 at 3:05 am)pool the great Wrote: (January 21, 2017 at 1:54 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I'd describe it more as the potential to sin. And that we all *will* sin if we can... ie, no one is perfect. It's part of human nature.
This hypothetical person will still sin, even if he doesn't learn it from anyone, bc it's in his nature to do so.
Yeah, that's the kind of answer I was looking for, whether a person will sin if they didn't even know what sin was. Wouldn't God cut his some slack though, since he probably doesn't know what a sin is in the first place?
Absolitely. Full knowledge and consent of the will play a major role in a person's culpability.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
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RE: Question for Christians regarding elimination of Sin
January 21, 2017 at 11:29 am
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RE: Question for Christians regarding elimination of Sin
January 21, 2017 at 11:32 am
Hmm? Nothing you posted denies what I said.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
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