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**The Grand Nudger** · September 19, 2012 at 5:52 pm

You want to see Star Trek butchered? Try to play STO, my B'Rel can barely butcher a goddamned Federation shuttle...... but barely is enough I suppose. Qapla!

**Autumnlicious** · (This post was last modified: September 19, 2012 at 9:13 pm by Autumnlicious.)

jonb · September 19, 2012 at 9:30 pm

**Cyberman** · September 19, 2012 at 9:35 pm

There is a deleted scene from Abrams'... effort, which shows Nero after being grabbed by the Klingons. It's supposed to explain why he waited eighteen years or whatever it is before actually doing anything, but really it rips off the Ceti Eel scene from Wrath of Khan.

**Autumnlicious** · September 19, 2012 at 11:11 pm

I stand somewhat corrected.

Still, that doesn't change the fact that super-space-mining ship from the future is AWOL for the better part of two decades.

**Cyberman** · September 19, 2012 at 11:19 pm

Agreed. It's just a lazy writing trick to stick one set of characters in a cupboard until you need them to prop up the plot. Star Trek: Generations did the same with Kirk.

Tea Earl Grey Hot · September 20, 2012 at 12:15 am

**Cyberman** · September 20, 2012 at 12:20 am

That's another reason I disliked the film; it was written so sloppily that it relied, no depended, on the audience buying merchandise just to get the story.

Tea Earl Grey Hot · September 20, 2012 at 12:50 am

(September 20, 2012 at 12:20 am)Stimbo Wrote: That's another reason I disliked the film; it was written so sloppily that it relied, no depended, on the audience buying merchandise just to get the story.

I don't see why the things supplied in the comics would be something the average movie goer would care about. Old Spock's mindmeld with Kirk I thought explained everything adequately. Without knowledge of the comics, you could say that the weapons are typical of a 24th century Romulan vessel and are only effective against the federation fleet because they're in the 23rd century now with significantly inferior technology. Or maybe they upgraded their ship during the nearly three decades they were in the 23rd century.

**Cyberman** · September 20, 2012 at 12:56 am

The point is the film relied on the comics and whatever other merchandise is applicable, such as the novelisation, to fill in the holes that should have been covered in the film. I have some limited screenwriting experience and a working knowledge of the craft (I just missed by that much having one of my scripts read by Douglas Adams); I watched the film with that background in mind and saw straight away where at least one more rewrite was sorely needed.

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