The question is which annoys you more

Vague christians who basically say things along the lines of "im sure the loving jesus preached was more important than the other parts of the bible" who basically chery pick their beliefs and have a vague spiritual idea of jesus. This maybe to dishonestly get more converts or they are trying to convince themselves of the religions rightiousness.

Or

The very specific christians for example the westboro baptist church who are very open, honest and unmoving about what they believe in. Who actively picket the funerals of gay men who died of aids and also US soldiers. And who remain firm that most of humanity is going to go to hell.

Im asking this because i saw russel brand, i dont think he is a christian but who i find annoying anyway, interview some of the westboro baptist church members and i couldnt decide who i found more annoying, russel brands vague wishy washy politically correct talk of jesus and spirituality or the westboro baptist churches complete disregard for other peoples emotions, picketing at the funerals of people who have just died.

As far as I can understand the xian bullshit, the WBC are the only real xians on the planet.

They both pretty much suck.

No need to cherry pick among them.

I'm with Min, the intellectually dishonest and flagrantly insulting are just as bad as each other IMO.

so the question is who do you hate more, those who do not think as you do and are vague about it, or those who do not think as you do and are specific about it?

Does that sum up your survey?

It is surprisingly hard to pick one. But I pick the specific and honest because I feel that they are at least reasoning on a more rational level. How rational is it to twist everything around so that the religion says what you want it to? I think that is almost the equivalent of not believing at all -- which is where I found I was.

The thing is that they claim to be followers of Christ and when you read what the Jesus Christ of the bible told people that they should do he said: don't kill other people, don't steal, don't commit adultery, don't falsely accuse other people, and try to show a little compassion for your neighbor. The hardcore Christians aren't showing compassion. The vague Christians aren't showing common sense. They can rationalize just about anything -- provided that it was done by one of their guys (I am thinking politicians).

I'm amazed at the way the Christians dance around what Jesus actually taught. He sure as hell didn't teach people to go out and be vigilantes. They read what he taught and they ignore it and focus on the supernatural crap. They argue that it is impossible for people not to kill, steal, malign, and cheat, and show consideration to others -- and they argue that they can only be "saved" by Gods grace. Who gives a shit if they are "saved"? They are so damn focused on themselves and their own make believe salvation that they aren't really showing any compassion for other people.

(January 6, 2013 at 1:52 pm)Drich Wrote: so the question is who do you hate more

No, the question was what do you think is more annoying.

It's no wonder you can't construct any intelligible argument to defend your positions when you obviously have trouble reading the simplest of sentences.

Yeah, both.

well i couldnt decide myself, its good in a way that most other people cant decide either

(January 6, 2013 at 12:44 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: As far as I can understand the xian bullshit, the WBC are the only real xians on the planet.

I agree entirely with this. They're only repeating what the Old Testament says about everything they don't like.