(January 8, 2013 at 9:13 am)BGChuckLee Wrote: Also: I read that 31% to 50% of transgender people commit suicide (And this was from a trans website). I can safely say, being trans correlates with dysfunctional behaviour.

So I am right,

Being BGChuckLee correlates with dysfunctional behaviour.

(January 8, 2013 at 9:16 am)Brian37 Wrote:

(January 8, 2013 at 9:12 am)Aractus Wrote: There is no such thing as being "born into the wrong body" just as there is no such thing as being born with the "wrong handedness".

I agree, but humans are born with things they don't want otherwise they wouldn't want to change those things. That is why I don't like the word "disorder", not because of doctors or the people who want to change, but because assholes like the one in this thread will use it as a slur.

So 31%-50% suicide rates is not a disorder?

(January 8, 2013 at 9:13 am)BGChuckLee Wrote: Also: I read that 31% to 50% of transgender people commit suicide (And this was from a trans website). I can safely say, being trans correlates with dysfunctional behaviour.

So I am right,

FYI the reason is likely that their identity as a person is hinged on their gender identity, and they believe surgery will make them more comfortable with who they are (which of course, it won't do completely).

(January 8, 2013 at 9:13 am)BGChuckLee Wrote: Also: I read that 31% to 50% of transgender people commit suicide (And this was from a trans website). I can safely say, being trans correlates with dysfunctional behaviour.

So I am right,

You fucking idiot, they commit suicide because of assholes like you. Because society has to project their script on others. I bet if you'd take the time to look up suicide rates among gays, you'd see, while still higher than heterosexuals, it is on the decline because sane people are not putting up with assholes like you and more gays and lesbians are standing up to assholes like you.

Of course they have problems. You are the problem. I'd tell them to tell you to fuck off.

(January 8, 2013 at 9:19 am)Aractus Wrote:

(January 8, 2013 at 9:13 am)BGChuckLee Wrote: Also: I read that 31% to 50% of transgender people commit suicide (And this was from a trans website). I can safely say, being trans correlates with dysfunctional behaviour.

So I am right,

FYI the reason is likely that their identity as a person is hinged on their gender identity, and they believe surgery will make them more comfortable with who they are (which of course, it won't do completely).

Nobody knows for sure, I don't know the reason as to why they have such high suicide figures- neither do you, you're just guessing.

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(January 8, 2013 at 9:20 am)Brian37 Wrote:

(January 8, 2013 at 9:13 am)BGChuckLee Wrote: Also: I read that 31% to 50% of transgender people commit suicide (And this was from a trans website). I can safely say, being trans correlates with dysfunctional behaviour.

So I am right,

You fucking idiot, they commit suicide because of assholes like you. Because society has to project their script on others. I bet if you'd take the time to look up suicide rates among gays, you'd see, while still higher than heterosexuals, it is on the decline because sane people are not putting up with assholes like you and more gays and lesbians are standing up to assholes like you.

Of course they have problems. You are the problem. I'd tell them to tell you to fuck off.

What have I done exactly?

I have voiced my feelings towards transexuality, given facts on the suicide rates ????? I'm a douchebag? People like you who are the problem, you do not even accept the clear and evident problem that trans people have. You are attacking me because I do not agree 100% with you.

If anything, I am on the trans/homosexual side, I don't want to see anyone committing suicide or being treated badly. So you are attacking a non existent threat.

Besides, how would you know what people commit suicide over? you're just guessing- I don't know for sure why they commit suicide, neither do you.

Buck, how is your gut flora today? Looking good?

(January 8, 2013 at 9:05 am)Dee Dee Ramone Wrote: Epic Brian.

Well, having been bullied as a kid and teen for being a "nerd" and "dork" I have long since gotten to the point where giving a fuck about people who don't matter in my life, did me no good, so I simply don't let other people's baggage become mine.

What matters is that we expose this crap and wash this selfish mentality out of society. You don't silence it by force, but you do have to stand up to it.

(January 8, 2013 at 9:28 am)Brian37 Wrote:

(January 8, 2013 at 9:05 am)Dee Dee Ramone Wrote: Epic Brian.

Well, having been bullied as a kid and teen for being a "nerd" and "dork" I have long since gotten to the point where giving a fuck about people who don't matter in my life, did me no good, so I simply don't let other people's baggage become mine.

What matters is that we expose this crap and wash this selfish mentality out of society. You don't silence it by force, but you do have to stand up to it.

Well, I guessed that much- You are so passive aggressive, it's like you are ready to pounce on anyone for anything as long as you are anonymous.

I'm trying to have a rational conversation here, learn more- I don't need abuse from you.

(January 8, 2013 at 9:21 am)BGChuckLee Wrote:

(January 8, 2013 at 9:19 am)Aractus Wrote: FYI the reason is likely that their identity as a person is hinged on their gender identity, and they believe surgery will make them more comfortable with who they are (which of course, it won't do completely).

Nobody knows for sure, I don't know the reason as to why they have such high suicide figures- neither do you, you're just guessing.

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(January 8, 2013 at 9:20 am)Brian37 Wrote: You fucking idiot, they commit suicide because of assholes like you. Because society has to project their script on others. I bet if you'd take the time to look up suicide rates among gays, you'd see, while still higher than heterosexuals, it is on the decline because sane people are not putting up with assholes like you and more gays and lesbians are standing up to assholes like you.

Of course they have problems. You are the problem. I'd tell them to tell you to fuck off.

What have I done exactly?

I have voiced my feelings towards transexuality, given facts on the suicide rates ????? I'm a douchebag? People like you who are the problem, you do not even accept the clear and evident problem that trans people have. You are attacking me because I do not agree 100% with you.

If anything, I am on the trans/homosexual side, I don't want to see anyone committing suicide or being treated badly. So you are attacking a non existent threat.

Besides, how would you know what people commit suicide over? you're just guessing- I don't know for sure why they commit suicide, neither do you.

You did express your feelings, so? "I don't like it", yea. So? Doesn't make it wrong. Just like my mom doesn't like beards or long hair on men. That does not give her the right to tell my best friend he has to cut his beard and hair.

Now, no one is claiming you should be forced to be attracted to someone you are not attracted to. But you are implying bigoted that they have some sort of mental dissorder as if they need to be lumped in with child molesters and murderers.

If someone wants to change their body to match what their brain tells them, that is NORMAL. Just like if one feels better wearing a beard or having long hair as a man.

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(January 8, 2013 at 9:29 am)BGChuckLee Wrote:

(January 8, 2013 at 9:28 am)Brian37 Wrote: Well, having been bullied as a kid and teen for being a "nerd" and "dork" I have long since gotten to the point where giving a fuck about people who don't matter in my life, did me no good, so I simply don't let other people's baggage become mine.

What matters is that we expose this crap and wash this selfish mentality out of society. You don't silence it by force, but you do have to stand up to it.

Well, I guessed that much- You are so passive aggressive, it's like you are ready to pounce on anyone for anything as long as you are anonymous.

I'm trying to have a rational conversation here, learn more- I don't need abuse from you.

How dare you. YOU started this thread. Don't start something you are not willing to finish coward. Now run from your bigotry like a baby.

(January 8, 2013 at 9:33 am)Brian37 Wrote:

(January 8, 2013 at 9:21 am)BGChuckLee Wrote: Nobody knows for sure, I don't know the reason as to why they have such high suicide figures- neither do you, you're just guessing.

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What have I done exactly?

I have voiced my feelings towards transexuality, given facts on the suicide rates ????? I'm a douchebag? People like you who are the problem, you do not even accept the clear and evident problem that trans people have. You are attacking me because I do not agree 100% with you.

If anything, I am on the trans/homosexual side, I don't want to see anyone committing suicide or being treated badly. So you are attacking a non existent threat.

Besides, how would you know what people commit suicide over? you're just guessing- I don't know for sure why they commit suicide, neither do you.

You did express your feelings, so? "I don't like it", yea. So? Doesn't make it wrong. Just like my mom doesn't like beards or long hair on men. That does not give her the right to tell my best friend he has to cut his beard and hair.

Now, no one is claiming you should be forced to be attracted to someone you are not attracted to. But you are implying bigoted that they have some sort of mental dissorder as if they need to be lumped in with child molesters and murderers.

If someone wants to change their body to match what their brain tells them, that is NORMAL. Just like if one feels better wearing a beard or having long hair as a man.

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(January 8, 2013 at 9:29 am)BGChuckLee Wrote: Well, I guessed that much- You are so passive aggressive, it's like you are ready to pounce on anyone for anything as long as you are anonymous.

I'm trying to have a rational conversation here, learn more- I don't need abuse from you.

How dare you. YOU started this thread. Don't start something you are not willing to finish coward. Now run from your bigotry like a baby.

Right, but half of people with handlebar moustaches don't commit suicide.