I think it's disgusting when a 40 year old is in a relationship with a 14 year old. It's sick because a 14 year old is NOT mature.

(January 22, 2013 at 1:55 pm)Dee Dee Ramone Wrote: I think it's disgusting when a 40 year old is in a relationship with a 14 year old. It's sick because a 14 year old is NOT mature.

I think 40 year olds are not mature, and it's sick that a 14 year old will stoop to their level in marriage.

You're not the only one who can claim bullshit, DDR.

Whatever. I think that a sexual relationship with such a big (under)age difference means that the oldest person is usually a pervert.

(January 22, 2013 at 2:36 pm)Dee Dee Ramone Wrote: Whatever. I think that a sexual relationship with such a big (under)age difference means that the oldest person is usually a pervert.

Whatever, I think that it's presumptive to brand people perverts for finding a fourteen year old attractive, fun, or worthy of protecting.

I think the big age difference between most parents and their children makes anyone older than 10 a pervert for wanting to have a baby (or several babies).

(January 21, 2013 at 8:06 pm)The_Germans_are_coming Wrote: I believe that expressing ones opinion is not a crime.

So do we.

Quote:What if someone would be in support and voice his support, for a crime which is so grose and disgusting that it would be perceived as criminal activity in most countries.

That is utterly irrelevant. If they are not using the forum to commit the actual crime, they can talk about it as much as they like.

Quote:What if a forum member were in support of childrape?

Again, the crime is irrelevant. You are allowed to voice your support of any activity, legal or illegal, as long as it is understood that our allowance does not necessarily mean we share the same views. Moreover, we allow the discussion of such activities so that people who oppose them may voice their objections.

Quote:Some of us have been talking about drugs and the use of drugs which could be seen as criminal activity. There was a member here who denied the holocaust which outraged me quite a bit and would be illegal where I come from.
And when angry I might even overreact, but to my knowlege I havent jet reported and probably never will, report a person simply because of his opinion.

Good, because in my opinion, any law that forbids denial of the Holocaust is a fucking stupid law and is only an attack on freedom of expression. Punishing idiots is not going to get you anywhere.

Quote:But frankly I would feel much more comfortable in the company of a methjunky, neo nazi, radical feminist, grining african warlord with a necless made of human fingerbones or communist.
Than in the company of someone who voices support for the legality and decriminalisation of rape of children.

Tough. You're in their company, but you have the ability to put them on your ignore list, or just stay away from any threads they are in. You can perform self-censorship, but we will not perform it for you.

(January 22, 2013 at 2:41 pm)Violet Lilly Blossom Wrote:

(January 22, 2013 at 2:36 pm)Dee Dee Ramone Wrote: Whatever. I think that a sexual relationship with such a big (under)age difference means that the oldest person is usually a pervert.

Whatever, I think that it's presumptive to brand people perverts for finding a fourteen year old attractive, fun, or worthy of protecting.

I think the big age difference between most parents and their children makes anyone older than 10 a pervert for wanting to have a baby (or several babies).

Let's agree to disagree.

(January 22, 2013 at 3:05 pm)Dee Dee Ramone Wrote: Let's agree to disagree.

I agree to nothing, all I've seen in this thread from you is opinionated presumption and an utter refusal to stand by your own points. I've created your points (nigh identically) for the side you've argued against as an attempt to show you how utterly ridiculous they are... and you say now that we should just agree to disagree?

You're saying you disagree with your own points... that's good enough for me.

I don't understand it.

(January 22, 2013 at 3:41 pm)Dee Dee Ramone Wrote: I don't understand it.

By agreeing to disagree with an *identical argument* to your own...

I really don't have to fill that in, it speaks for itself

(January 22, 2013 at 2:50 pm)Tiberius Wrote:

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(January 21, 2013 at 8:06 pm)The_Germans_are_coming Wrote: I believe that expressing ones opinion is not a crime.

So do we.

Quote:What if someone would be in support and voice his support, for a crime which is so grose and disgusting that it would be perceived as criminal activity in most countries.

That is utterly irrelevant. If they are not using the forum to commit the actual crime, they can talk about it as much as they like.

Quote:What if a forum member were in support of childrape?

Again, the crime is irrelevant. You are allowed to voice your support of any activity, legal or illegal, as long as it is understood that our allowance does not necessarily mean we share the same views. Moreover, we allow the discussion of such activities so that people who oppose them may voice their objections.

Quote:Some of us have been talking about drugs and the use of drugs which could be seen as criminal activity. There was a member here who denied the holocaust which outraged me quite a bit and would be illegal where I come from.
And when angry I might even overreact, but to my knowlege I havent jet reported and probably never will, report a person simply because of his opinion.

Good, because in my opinion, any law that forbids denial of the Holocaust is a fucking stupid law and is only an attack on freedom of expression. Punishing idiots is not going to get you anywhere.

Quote:But frankly I would feel much more comfortable in the company of a methjunky, neo nazi, radical feminist, grining african warlord with a necless made of human fingerbones or communist.
Than in the company of someone who voices support for the legality and decriminalisation of rape of children.

Tough. You're in their company, but you have the ability to put them on your ignore list, or just stay away from any threads they are in. You can perform self-censorship, but we will not perform it for you.

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I`ll follow that and put him on my ignore list.

I guess I just needed to voice my disgust somewhere.

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(January 22, 2013 at 1:48 pm)Violet Lilly Blossom Wrote: And precisely what facts do you possess that state a 14-year old individual *cannot possibly be* in a consensual relationship with a 40-year old?

There are young women out there who *do* want to be 'taken care of' by a kind older man who gives them one of the most sought-after things in this world:

Stability.

The fact that the law is against it, laws are not created through a irrational process, they are created by taking facts into consideration.
Such as the legal age at which one reaches adulthood, the pedagogic studies which are dedicated to these specific subjects and etc.

And that young woman will simply have to wait until she is 18, or the man has to, since he would be the purpertrator in the crime.