(March 24, 2013 at 1:12 am)Mr Infidel Wrote:

(March 24, 2013 at 1:09 am)Drich Wrote: Because there is no loack of Proof for all who A/S/K as outlined in Luke 11.

Yes, there is. A twelve year old girl prays nightly for god to prevent her father from raping her. Does god do anything? No. The difference between me and your non-existent god, is that I would do something if I knew she was in trouble.

So it is your position that every 12 yearold girl who has ever asked God to stop her father from raping her, has always been raped?

Do you have 'proof' of this or does that only apply to God, and I am to take your word on faith?

(March 24, 2013 at 1:31 am)Drich Wrote:

(March 24, 2013 at 1:12 am)Mr Infidel Wrote: Yes, there is. A twelve year old girl prays nightly for god to prevent her father from raping her. Does god do anything? No. The difference between me and your non-existent god, is that I would do something if I knew she was in trouble.

So it is your position that every 12 yearold girl who has ever asked God to stop her father from raping her, has always been raped?

I believe that it is his position, that a god who would ignore the prayers of any girl who was being raped, is an insufferable dick.

I can't say I disagree.

(March 24, 2013 at 1:31 am)Drich Wrote: So it is your position that every 12 yearold girl who has ever asked God to stop her father from raping her, has always been raped?

Nice one, there. I see what you did. Making the victim into the enemy. Sorry, but I would rather rely upon logic than your fallacy. The fact remains that your god does nothing to help those truly in need.

(March 23, 2013 at 7:05 pm)Texas Sailor Wrote: Prove me wrong.

You are not god because you can't prove me wrong if you were god you would appear right now in this room that I am typing this message right now. So by you not being able to do that proves that you are not god and also there is no god at all.

(March 24, 2013 at 1:15 am)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote:

(March 24, 2013 at 1:09 am)Drich Wrote: Because there is no loack of Proof for all who A/S/K as outlined in Luke 11.

Except when there is.

I have yet to meet one person who has followed Luke 11's A/S/K and failed to come back without an answer from God. That answer usally starting out with an awareness to first clear up unresolved sin in the A/S/K'ers life. If the A/S/K'er does then he is given more of the H/S. If he refuses then what He had is taken away. Leaving one with a lack of proof, So yes we are in agreement. If you ignore God He will inturn Ignore you.

(March 24, 2013 at 1:38 am)Drich Wrote: I have yet to meet one person who has followed Luke 11's A/S/K and failed to come back without an answer from God.

Then you are meeting very gullible people. There is a name for someone like you. Con (wo)man.

(March 24, 2013 at 1:33 am)Mr Infidel Wrote:

(March 24, 2013 at 1:31 am)Drich Wrote: So it is your position that every 12 yearold girl who has ever asked God to stop her father from raping her, has always been raped?

Nice one, there. I see what you did. Making the victim into the enemy. Sorry, but I would rather rely upon logic than your fallacy. The fact remains that your god does nothing to help those truly in need.

Red Herring.

My response was to call you on your presentation of 'fact' in your arguement. So either you can provide supporting documentation of what you claimed about 12 year old's prayers going unanswered, or you can admit to constructing a straw man to support you basless assertion.
Which will it be noob?

Oh, and tell me some more about who was using what fallacy...

(March 24, 2013 at 1:44 am)Drich Wrote: So either you can provide supporting documentation of what you claimed about 12 year old's prayers going unanswered

They go unanswered all the time. If they had been answered, they would not have made public testimony regarding their abuse, news stories would not have been aired, and god would have miraculously intervened by stopping the men. The very fact that bad men are in prison proves that god does not exist.

Speaking of supporting documentation: if you have not paid attention to societal problems in regards to how many victims' prayers to god went unanswered, then you are oblivious to anything except your own fantasy where god can do no wrong. Also, when are fundamentalists like yourself going to finally provide supporting documentation in relation to the existence of your god?

(March 24, 2013 at 1:38 am)Drich Wrote:

(March 24, 2013 at 1:15 am)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: Except when there is.

I have yet to meet one person who has followed Luke 11's A/S/K and failed to come back without an answer from God. That answer usally starting out with an awareness to first clear up unresolved sin in the A/S/K'ers life. If the A/S/K'er does then he is given more of the H/S. If he refuses then what He had is taken away. Leaving one with a lack of proof, So yes we are in agreement. If you ignore God He will inturn Ignore you.

Yes, you have. You simply fail to acknowledge it.

Cthulu Dreaming sought God so hard he thought Mt 7 made all Christian have to walk around all day long and feel like they couldn't judge anyone. Every time there is a bad person around, they must forget the rest of the Bible and just say to them-self "Not judging".