Quote:He came back with a couple of stainless steel tablets

GOLD tablets.

(Hey...if you're going to lie, lie BIG.)

(March 25, 2013 at 8:05 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Joseph Smith got his devine revelations whilst in the woods partaking of his favorite mushrooms. He came back with a couple of stainless steel tablets, that since magically disappeared.

It's like every time god takes the time to write down his law on something, the guy he gives it to loses it or breaks it. Is it really asking to much that these clumsy fucks take proper care of something they got from GOD HIMSELF?

well, to be fair, I think humans lost the 10 Commandment slabs and the ark. Or something. Or it's in the bowels of a warehouse, if Spielburg is to be believed.

So... my mom's side of the family is pretty much all Mormon (except for mom). I myself know fuck all about it, I wasn't raised in it. I met most of them at a family reunion 10+ years ago, seemed like pretty normal folks. Religion never came up in the family, even amongst those who I knew since childhood, don't know why. Maybe they saved the batshit stuff for temple?

I get the impression that much like in anything else, you've got your regular run-of-the-mill Mormons, and those of a more fundamentalist bent. The former are probably mostly harmless.

*clenches his teeth around his pipe*

Top. Men.

(March 25, 2013 at 8:23 pm)thesummerqueen Wrote: I think humans lost the 10 Commandment slabs

Pfft. There were 15.

This is actually a pretty accurate telling of the orginal version of mormonism.

http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/10...ith-part-1

That's pretty clever.

Of course, all the angry desert god religions began that way but I'm sure you think your bullshit is different.

(March 25, 2013 at 8:05 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: It's not until you're pretty much entrenched that the weird stuff comes out.

Ahh, weird stuff like God coming to earth, taking on human form and dying for man's sins, even though God had the ability to save man without all the theatrics and even knew of man's future plight and terrible suffering that would ensue in both the physical world and the afterlife and yet still decided to create him anyway? That weirdness? Keep heaven weird.

(March 26, 2013 at 1:18 am)Minimalist Wrote: That's pretty clever.

Of course, all the angry desert god religions began that way but I'm sure you think your bullshit is different.

Mormons are worse. Much worse. Specifically, their holy book teaches that 2000 or so years ago, there was a civilization of Jews living in what is now upstate New York. Thing is, this wasn't just some minor civilization that could be easily replaced. The Book of Mormon describes their final battle as involving 250,000 soldiers and given that ancient populations had a 10-to-1 resident-to-soldier ratio, that means we're talking about a civilization that's about 2,500,000 people. And they were destroyed by another, equally large and powerful civilization in the same area. Yet we have zero archaeological evidence for either one of these civilizations ever existing. We have plenty of evidence for the Incas and the Aztecs and even the Mayan civilization (even though the last had been long since gone when the first Europeans came over). None of those civilizations ever came anywhere near upstate New York. Even suggesting that one of them could be a the rival/enemy tribe that destroyed the Jews is absurd because 1) it's such a long way away that I can't imagine a tribe traveling all the way from the Yucatan pinensula to the New England just to fight and 2) cities have been destroyed in warfare before and archaeologists have still been able to find record of those cities. So far, no such records exist for any cities where the book of Mormon says they should be. No artifacts or evidence for any civilization in the area.

And, yet, as easily as their religious beliefs can be demolished, their believers still hold onto their faith. Evidence doesn't deter them anymore than evidence has detered any other theist.