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RE: Conflicting statements in the bible
April 22, 2013 at 8:20 pm
(April 22, 2013 at 8:17 pm)Faith No More Wrote: Did you actually type that with a straight face?
Nope, I actually was snickering a bit because it’s always funny how you atheists don’t care about the facts (like what Greek title Luke actually uses) but rather what you want the facts to be. There’s no contradiction there, so sorry, try again.
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RE: Conflicting statements in the bible
April 22, 2013 at 8:26 pm
(April 22, 2013 at 8:20 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: (April 22, 2013 at 8:17 pm)Faith No More Wrote: Did you actually type that with a straight face?
Nope, I actually was snickering a bit because it’s always funny how you atheists don’t care about the facts (like what Greek title Luke actually uses) but rather what you want the facts to be. There’s no contradiction there, so sorry, try again.
I find it funny how believers accept folks like Luke whose honesty, character and integrity are unknown. Even funnier is 45 of the gospels are of unknown authorship and therefore we have no lead on their honesty and such either.
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RE: Conflicting statements in the bible
April 22, 2013 at 8:27 pm
Here are your own words again...
Statler Waldorf Wrote:Luke: Mary was pregnant with Jesus when the first census was issued while Quirinius was a procurator (hegemon) in HSyria (8-7 BC).
Mark: Jesus was born while Herod the Great was King (sometime before Herod’s death in 4 BC.)
No matter how much importance you try to stress on the definition words, Mary could not have been pregnant with Jesus in 8-7 BC and then Jesus was born in 4 BC. Or are you now going to argue that Mary was pregnant for 3 years?
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RE: Conflicting statements in the bible
April 22, 2013 at 8:29 pm
Well, it is a magic child after all.
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RE: Conflicting statements in the bible
April 22, 2013 at 8:43 pm
(April 22, 2013 at 8:27 pm)Faith No More Wrote: No matter how much importance you try to stress on the definition words, Mary could not have been pregnant with Jesus in 8-7 BC and then Jesus was born in 4 BC. Or are you now going to argue that Mary was pregnant for 3 years?
Where did I say Jesus was born in 4 BC? He merely had to be born before Herod’s death in 4 BC. Most scholars believe Jesus was born around 6 BC, and Mary could easily be pregnant and have to begin traveling to Bethlehem in 7 BC and give birth in 6 BC.
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RE: Conflicting statements in the bible
April 22, 2013 at 8:54 pm
Ah, I see. Sorry, I missed the "before" part.
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RE: Conflicting statements in the bible
April 22, 2013 at 9:04 pm
(April 22, 2013 at 8:43 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: (April 22, 2013 at 8:27 pm)Faith No More Wrote: No matter how much importance you try to stress on the definition words, Mary could not have been pregnant with Jesus in 8-7 BC and then Jesus was born in 4 BC. Or are you now going to argue that Mary was pregnant for 3 years?
Where did I say Jesus was born in 4 BC? He merely had to be born before Herod’s death in 4 BC. Most scholars believe Jesus was born around 6 BC, and Mary could easily be pregnant and have to begin traveling to Bethlehem in 7 BC and give birth in 6 BC.
What does belief have to do with it when one cannot distinguish the gospel writers from liars?
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RE: Conflicting statements in the bible
April 22, 2013 at 9:29 pm
Quote:Luke: Mary was pregnant with Jesus when the first census was issued while Quirinius was a procurator (hegemon) in Syria (8-7 BC).
Quirinius was not procurator. He was of the senatorial class and an ex-consul. Procurators during the reign of Tiberius...and probably Augustus...were drawn from the Equestrian order. Quirinius would have been the Imperial Legate a title befitting his status.
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RE: Conflicting statements in the bible
April 22, 2013 at 11:58 pm
(April 22, 2013 at 9:04 pm)A_Nony_Mouse Wrote: (April 22, 2013 at 8:43 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: Where did I say Jesus was born in 4 BC? He merely had to be born before Herod’s death in 4 BC. Most scholars believe Jesus was born around 6 BC, and Mary could easily be pregnant and have to begin traveling to Bethlehem in 7 BC and give birth in 6 BC.
What does belief have to do with it when one cannot distinguish the gospel writers from liars?
Fortunately we can tell the difference between those who want truth and you.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: Conflicting statements in the bible
April 23, 2013 at 12:00 am
You can't tell your ass from your elbow, G-C.
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