(May 7, 2013 at 4:58 pm)Harris Wrote: Mass media is doing its utmost to portray all Muslims as culprit and most of the naive people do take these Muslims as real culprit.

I'm only going to comment on this one particular point...

To a point, I agree with you. It is far, far more common to see Muslims behaving badly in the media than not, and naive people will generalize from this and may perhaps think that all or most Muslims are bad people. (I'd like to make it perfectly clear that I don't hold that opinion at all, about Muslims, or anyone else for that matter. I also need to be clear that I'm generalizing a bit based on what I personally see in the U.S. media, and so my impression is necessarily subjective.)

It's an unfortunate truth that the news media is far, far more likely to report something negative than something positive, regardless of who the story is about. As the saying goes, "If it bleeds, it leads." Where I live, there are not very many Muslims at all - and so it is quite easy to incorrectly generalize beliefs about Muslims based on what is reported in the media. It's unfortunate. I for one understand that while there are terrorist Muslims, not all Muslims are terrorists. I for one would not judge someone solely on the basis of what religion they follow, but rather on the content of their individual character. I'm far from the only one here who feels that way. (Incidentally, atheists suffer from negative stereotyping much the same as Muslims, which is perhaps something you can understand.)

The unfriendly welcome that you received was, I think, largely due to the perception that your first post was insulting and presumptuous, not because you're Muslim.

(May 7, 2013 at 4:58 pm)Harris Wrote: I know what Stalin and Mao did, you collect entire history of Muslim even then it will not come even near what these two guys have done. And don't forget about women and children who are dying on daily basis in Afghanistan, in Iraq, in Palestine, in Kashmir, in the name of war against terror.

First of all, you fucktard, Stalin and Mao did not commit their atrocities in the name of atheism, so your argument completely fails.

Those women and children are dying because of MUSLIM terrorists that attacked the United States. Isn't it interesting how EVERY SINGLE COUNTRY you named is muslim? It is you, my retarded little friend, that is responsible for those deaths.

I hope you enjoy the blood of innocents on your hands. Then again, you are a muslim. Having the blood of innocents on your hands is a fucking requirement.

(May 7, 2013 at 5:26 pm)Harris Wrote: Did Hitler kill because Christianity is teaching to kill people?

No...did I blame the holocaust on Christianity? People can very well ignore pieces of their religion.

I think this is going to be a first, here.
You're a muslim, Harris, but which branch? sunni? shia? what?
And which branch do the mass media terrorists associate themselves with?

Why is it that the media doesn't specify these details, but never forgets to specify that it's the catholic priests who rape kids and are then covered up by the catholic church?

Harris Wrote:I have not heard in years anything against atheist on the level of mass media.

Then you haven't watched Fox News.

I give up. He just moves from one lie to the next without batting an eye.


It's like getting one of those screen readers from India on the phone when you need computer support, they don't listen to a word you're saying, they just keep reading through the prepared script for answering support calls.

First it's the language atheists on this forum use, then it's Muslims in the media, "I'm just misunderstood," the inevitable references to Stalin and Pol Pot, and now it's some French friend who I'm certain is a complete fiction.

I'm tired of the lies and the bullshit and the insults. As far as I'm concerned, you can go fuck yourself.

The fact that you're still stereotyping me on the basis of what you think my religious beliefs are is more than ample evidence that you're just making shit up to comfort your prejudices and make them seem reasonable. They're nothing but products of your imagination.

(May 7, 2013 at 6:11 pm)Baalzebutt Wrote: First of all, you fucktard, Stalin and Mao did not commit their atrocities in the name of atheism, so your argument completely fails.

Those women and children are dying because of MUSLIM terrorists that attacked the United States. Isn't it interesting how EVERY SINGLE COUNTRY you named is muslim? It is you, my retarded little friend, that is responsible for those deaths.

I hope you enjoy the blood of innocents on your hands. Then again, you are a muslim. Having the blood of innocents on your hands is a fucking requirement.

Some outrageous and inflammatory generalisations here. You're exactly the kind of person that makes the "New Atheism" movement remarkably unappealing; your aggressive, unfounded assertions would be utterly ridiculed by anybody who is not ignorant on this particular topic of discussion. In your next reply, I request two things: (1) endeavour to write a paragraph in which you refrain from insulting the recipient, and (2) endeavour to not come across as ignorant and immature.

(May 7, 2013 at 10:22 pm)apophenia Wrote: The fact that you're still stereotyping me on the basis of what you think my religious beliefs are is more than ample evidence that you're just making shit up to comfort your prejudices and make them seem reasonable. They're nothing but products of your imagination.

This, this & this. That's why I couldn't bring myself to respond. I was incandescent after reading his reply to me.

Still calling troll here people.

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(May 8, 2013 at 5:46 am)Love Wrote:

(May 7, 2013 at 6:11 pm)Baalzebutt Wrote: First of all, you fucktard, Stalin and Mao did not commit their atrocities in the name of atheism, so your argument completely fails.

Those women and children are dying because of MUSLIM terrorists that attacked the United States. Isn't it interesting how EVERY SINGLE COUNTRY you named is muslim? It is you, my retarded little friend, that is responsible for those deaths.

I hope you enjoy the blood of innocents on your hands. Then again, you are a muslim. Having the blood of innocents on your hands is a fucking requirement.

Some outrageous and inflammatory generalisations here. You're exactly the kind of person that makes the "New Atheism" movement remarkably unappealing; your aggressive, unfounded assertions would be utterly ridiculed by anybody who is not ignorant on this particular topic of discussion. In your next reply, I request two things: (1) endeavour to write a paragraph in which you refrain from insulting the recipient, and (2) endeavour to not come across as ignorant and immature.

I've just given him some kudos for that very same post. Thanks for being outraged on my behalf.