(May 31, 2013 at 5:19 am)NoraBrimstone Wrote: Oh come on, it's bollocks. Like Acupuncture and bloody cupping, or whatever it's called. So what if it van have a placebo effect? Chiropractors are still ripping people off. Plus it can do harm. My Grandfather went to one years ago with problems with his hip. He thought it was great, they fixed the issue fine. Except it just felt fine; now, years later, whatever the fuck they did is causing problems and his doctor is pissed off at him for going to a Chiropractor in the first place.

I have a similar anecdote, my sister's father-in-law had back problems, but his back was healing. Then he went to a chiropractor, who managed to fuck his back up even worse.

(May 31, 2013 at 11:02 am)thesummerqueen Wrote: Minor note - last I heard, at least in the US - chiropractors didn't need a proper license, while physical therapists did. That alone to me, even if the chiro isn't one who ascribes to woo, is a reason just to go to the physical therapist instead.

Last I heard - i.e. just looked it up - chiropractors need a license in all 50 states.

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(May 31, 2013 at 11:43 am)Kayenneh Wrote:

(May 31, 2013 at 5:19 am)NoraBrimstone Wrote: Oh come on, it's bollocks. Like Acupuncture and bloody cupping, or whatever it's called. So what if it van have a placebo effect? Chiropractors are still ripping people off. Plus it can do harm. My Grandfather went to one years ago with problems with his hip. He thought it was great, they fixed the issue fine. Except it just felt fine; now, years later, whatever the fuck they did is causing problems and his doctor is pissed off at him for going to a Chiropractor in the first place.

I have a similar anecdote, my sister's father-in-law had back problems, but his back was healing. Then he went to a chiropractor, who managed to fuck his back up even worse.

It's not scientific dammit! Now listen to my anecdotal evidence!

I've known two chiropractors. One is married to a "Crystal Singing Bowls" therapist, the other continually tried to convince me that chemtrails were real and homeopathy was legit. Make of that what you will.

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/unreasonabl...c-therapy/

Quote:Daniel David Palmer discovered the power of spinal manipulation by allegedly healing a deaf man by repositioning a vertebrae in his spine. Shortly after, he healed someone with heart trouble through the same technique. Convinced he discovered a new medical technique, he opened the Palmer School of Chiropractic in 1897.

Palmer claimed that 95% of all diseases were caused by displaced vertebrae, a belief many chiropractors today still hold. To explain this, he invented new terms like “subluxation” (a displacement of the spine), which resulted in a blockage of the body’s “innate intelligence.” Whatever that means.

He refused to acknowledge the role of germs in sickness and was taken to court numerous times. His “persecution” put fuel on the fire of his new religion, where he compared himself to Jesus, Mohammed, Joseph Smith, and Martin Luther.

Ahhh.... the quack compares himself to 4 other quacks. Interesting.

(May 31, 2013 at 12:29 pm)John V Wrote: It's not scientific dammit! Now listen to my anecdotal evidence!

Both me and Nora are well aware that stories aren't evidence, we just compared personal opinions. No need to get your panties in a twist about it.

(May 31, 2013 at 12:50 pm)missingnocchi Wrote: I've known two chiropractors. One is married to a "Crystal Singing Bowls" therapist, the other continually tried to convince me that chemtrails were real and homeopathy was legit. Make of that what you will.

And more anecdotal evidence!

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Pssst...ya know what I heard???

Chiropractors kick puppies!

(May 31, 2013 at 2:00 pm)John V Wrote:

(May 31, 2013 at 12:50 pm)missingnocchi Wrote: I've known two chiropractors. One is married to a "Crystal Singing Bowls" therapist, the other continually tried to convince me that chemtrails were real and homeopathy was legit. Make of that what you will.

And more anecdotal evidence!

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Pssst...ya know what I heard???

Chiropractors kick puppies!

Evidence? What was I trying to prove? We're just talking.

I don't remember the documentary, but it was dismissed as bogus quite a while ago - the lack of verifiable evidence and whatnot. Although, since I don't remember much of it, I move it to the "unknown" category.

(May 31, 2013 at 2:00 pm)John V Wrote:

(May 31, 2013 at 12:50 pm)missingnocchi Wrote: I've known two chiropractors. One is married to a "Crystal Singing Bowls" therapist, the other continually tried to convince me that chemtrails were real and homeopathy was legit. Make of that what you will.

And more anecdotal evidence!

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Pssst...ya know what I heard???

Chiropractors kick puppies!

They do?

Jesus, save us all!

(May 29, 2013 at 8:27 pm)festive1 Wrote: I <3 my chiropractor! I don't care if its woo, a massage that's covered by my insurance gets nothing but praise from me I always feel slightly taller after an adjustment, very important when one is 5'2''.

I'm 4'9". I've been going for about 4 years now and have yet been made taller. That being said, I love my chiropractor too...even if he is a scientologist.

(May 30, 2013 at 4:50 am)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: Consensus in the Studies i've read is that Chiropractors do little to nothing that simple rest couldn't fix.

My spine is fucked. I can see that with my own eyes on the numerous x-rays I've been given. It looks like an old lady spine, not that of a 30 year old woman. It can't be fixed and my chiro admits that it can't be fixed. He can just help with some of the pain. He also adjusts writs, knees and ankles which I find helpful. He doesn't even pretend he's going to make everything better. We both know that isn't possible.

I did see a guy who talked to my head. Seriously, he would ask my head questions. He also insisted that I visit him 3 times a week. That was enough of that. I went back to the other guy who doesn't trying to speak to my organs or tell me how often I need to come into his office.

(May 30, 2013 at 4:50 am)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: My issue with CP is that, in using it as a first port of call, patients may miss a diagnosis by a trained MD for something that could be deadly serious which the CP simply isn't trained for or licensed to examine.

I saw a regular doctor and also did conventional therapy before trying a chiropractor. I still see a regular doctor as well as a specialist (MD) who knows about my chiropractic care. I would recommend everyone have scans and things of that nature done before they go to a chiropractor.