(June 5, 2013 at 2:27 pm)dazzn Wrote: no, all subjectivists are sociopaths. as said, sociopaths hold no morality, or even comprehension of it.

if my opinion is "wrong", then state as such.

Because the only qualification to be a sociopath isn't 'holding no morality.'

Also, moral subjectivists hold morality.

So not all subjectivists are sociopaths.

morality doesn't exist, and anything goes.

subjectivists' argument stem from a sociopathic base. you tell me why they say "oh, nothing matters, who gives a shit?" to people who question them about inhumane actions.

(June 5, 2013 at 2:32 pm)Gilgamesh Wrote:

(June 5, 2013 at 2:27 pm)dazzn Wrote: no, all subjectivists are sociopaths. as said, sociopaths hold no morality, or even comprehension of it.

if my opinion is "wrong", then state as such.

Because the only qualification to be a sociopath isn't 'holding no morality.'

Also, moral subjectivists hold morality.

So not all subjectivists are sociopaths.

Waste of time, Gilgamesh.

The dude doesn't even lift.

No, I don't believe it is "right" to cheat. Being in a commited relationship involves being faithful. if you are being unfaithful you are breaking that commitment to the one you claim to care about. Usually people would not wish the ones they commit themselves to to cheat on them therefore they should give the respect of doing the same. look people change and like sinn says "who may be right for you now may not be right for you later" (or something close). if you don't want to be in a commited relationship than leave. hopefully you will think rationally as to why you would leave but that is up to you. part of our advanced social abilities is due to finding a mate that will be honest and loyal through their life and help raise the young. cheating isn't a trait usually found in loyal and honest mates. males don't want to raise someone elses offspring and waste time and resources. females typically don't want males to be unfaithful because the likely hood of the male not providing for her or their young increases. really there is alot of reasons. just remember the Golden rule: Treat others how you wish to be treated.

(June 5, 2013 at 2:35 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote:

(June 5, 2013 at 2:32 pm)Gilgamesh Wrote: Because the only qualification to be a sociopath isn't 'holding no morality.'

Also, moral subjectivists hold morality.

So not all subjectivists are sociopaths.

Waste of time, Gilgamesh.

The dude doesn't even lift.

the lord of opinion has outlaid his bible!!!

(June 5, 2013 at 2:34 pm)dazzn Wrote: morality doesn't exist, and anything goes.

Morality exists and nothing goes.

Quote:subjectivists' argument stem from a sociopathic base. you tell me why they say "oh, nothing matters, who gives a shit?" to people who question them about inhumane actions.

Some moral subjectivists might say that because they realise morality is not universal and their morality doesn't tell them it's wrong, so they ask why they should give a shit about the thing in question or why they should give a shit about someone else's morality.

(June 5, 2013 at 2:44 pm)Gilgamesh Wrote:

(June 5, 2013 at 2:34 pm)dazzn Wrote: morality doesn't exist, and anything goes.

Morality exists and nothing goes.

Quote:subjectivists' argument stem from a sociopathic base. you tell me why they say "oh, nothing matters, who gives a shit?" to people who question them about inhumane actions.

Some moral subjectivists might say that because they realise morality is not universal and their morality doesn't tell them it's wrong, so they ask why they should give a shit about the thing in question or why they should give a shit about someone else's morality.

yes, so sociopathy. and prove the existence of morals.

(June 5, 2013 at 2:50 pm)dazzn Wrote: yes, so sociopathy.

You don't know the definition of sociopathy. You also don't even lift.

State your reasoning for your opinions. Dazzn us with your intellectual superiority and understanding

yes, i do. it's characterised by a lack of empathy. you mention violation of the rights of others, but that's false. you could meet a sociopath in your day to day life, and never know otherwise. not all sociopaths are like charles manson or your average serial killer, duh...

saying "who gives a fuck?" if confronted by questions of so-called inhumane actions is sociopathy by definition. but if subjectivists don't want to argue their case properly, that's their own business, not mine. i think that morals don't exist, personally.