(July 17, 2013 at 5:38 am)pineapplebunnybounce Wrote: Disgusting the way some religious people pounce on you when you're at a low point, and then say that god brought this upon you just so you can become a member of their club. Like that's a good thing.

Good luck with your condition and try your best to stay strong.

When is the best time to approach someone about being a member of an auto club? when they are broken down on the side of the road, or when they feel like their car is dependable and has never broken down?

The best time to offer a free towing service is when someone needs a tow, not when they are driving by.

Just because one person has something against this particular 'towing company' does not mean everyone will refuse the tow as well.

The difference between a tow truck and a religion is that a tow truck is actually useful.

(July 16, 2013 at 4:00 pm)Godschild Wrote: If you do decide to ignore what you felt this time I'm hoping God will call on you again, if He does I'm always available to give you guidance.

What evidence do you have to support the idea that this situation is 'god calling on K2490'?

(July 17, 2013 at 9:38 am)Drich Wrote: The best time to offer a free towing service is when someone needs a tow, not when they are driving by.

Except you're not offering a tow. That would be analogous to getting them professional help.

What you're offering is a magic elixir that you promise that if they believe hard enough in and pour it in the gas tank, the car will suddenly start working again, when in all likelihood it will just screw the car up even more. The worst part is that you see a moment of weakness and vulnerability as a prime opportunity to peddle your superstition.

(July 16, 2013 at 1:58 am)k2490 Wrote: I was recently hospitalized due to mental health issues and on the way to the hospital the paramedic in the back was like "What helps me is God,he gives me so much joy.I suggest you try god,not that occult stuff but the bible believers"Give it a try what do you have to lose.

THEN,I got a phone call from a friend while I was in the hospitals she was basically saying god is real because all the time I would have died but didn't.(suicide)Then I went into how I feel about everyone has a purpose and we are connected in a way.

The she said "What you said is exactly what the bible says" and I was like many religions have a common morale and she was like "No"

she also says that no religion can be proven you have to go by faith.

she also mentioned having a relationship god

It may not be to a high degree but I'm feeling a lot of pressure to convert and it annoying

It disgusts me the way the religious will try to push their faith on the mentally ill as if it were as effective as medication. What is sad is a lot of those who are mentally ill will end up clinging to god - I walked out of a group prayer started by a patient at a meeting in the psych ward. There's also partial hospitalization/day programs that sometimes people go to after being hospitalized to be watched over and helped and I cannot tell you how often 'God' was mentioned or thanked while I was in one of those (shitty, stupid as fuck) programs.

(July 17, 2013 at 9:38 am)Drich Wrote: When is the best time to approach someone about being a member of an auto club? when they are broken down on the side of the road, or when they feel like their car is dependable and has never broken down?

The best time to offer a free towing service is when someone needs a tow, not when they are driving by.

Just because one person has something against this particular 'towing company' does not mean everyone will refuse the tow as well.

No, no, no. There's a flaw in your analogy. The best time to offer a tow would be when someone needs it, yes. But religion is like offering someone a tow while not driving a tow truck.

(July 17, 2013 at 10:20 am)Ben Davis Wrote:

(July 16, 2013 at 4:00 pm)Godschild Wrote: If you do decide to ignore what you felt this time I'm hoping God will call on you again, if He does I'm always available to give you guidance.

What evidence do you have to support the idea that this situation is 'god calling on K2490'?

I did not say the situation was God's calling, k2490 said there was a feeling and I asked what it was like, and I had no response. This feeling is what I was addressing, all I could do was assume God was calling because of the feeling, and all I wanted to do is offer help if k2490 wanted it, nothing more, nothing less.

(July 17, 2013 at 5:42 pm)Godschild Wrote: all I could do was assume God was calling because of the feeling

Thanks GC. This is what I was getting at. Why would you make the assumption that the feeling was a 'call from god' when there are many other possible explanations which don't require any supernatural position? To put it another way, when someone is being treated for mental health issues, do you have a way of telling the difference between 'feelings that are a call from god' and 'feelings which are symptoms of mental health issues'?

@Drich and gc, i meant that if you really cared about someone, you wouldn't ask them to make a life changing decision when they're emotionally burdened and have mental health issues. it's hard to understand how it could be for their benefit. so it strikes me as inconsiderate and opportunistic. particularly because it's not a good idea to introduce imaginary beings to someone who has mental health issues to begin with.

Say this:
"I can not bring myself to fain belief in something which is so clearly untrue just to indulge you and other assholes like you. I find it funny that people like you think you are superior to me because you believe something so preposterous and idiotic. Its funny. I'm so sick of trying my best to laugh behind your back, as opposed to in your face, when you cant have the common decency to keep your stupid, ridiculous, offensive, primitive superstition to your self. Its dumb. And when you talk about it, you sound dumb. Please, oh please, shut the fuck up!"

Thats my advice anyway...