(July 19, 2013 at 5:17 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Try studying the subject. You'll find that we know a hell of a lot more than you think.

Im not doubting that or belittling the advancements of science.. but knowing a lot is very different than knowing everything... ancient greek philosophers presented the idea of a first cause, it is to this day, unproven.

(July 19, 2013 at 4:36 pm)christcahinkilla Wrote:

Chas Wrote:You really need to read a book on evolution. I suggest Why Evolution is True by Jerry Coyne, PhD.

you don't know that it's true, just like creationists don't know that creation is true, do you see the hypocrisy?

Well the theory of evolution is on as good a footing as most any other scientific theory. No hypocrisy here. If you really think evolution has no more claim to being considered true than the theory of divine creation, why do you call yourself an atheist? Agnostic at most, not that there is anything wrong with that.

Nobody mentioned knowing everything. That's not a requirement for knowing something, nor is it required to investigate that which we don't know. BBT has been tested and continues to be tested - so far, it's survived. Incidentally, that was not always the case; for the longest time, until observation techniques had been refined and the data measured, the Steady State model was the leading hypothesis. Now the Big Bang model best fits the known facts. Seriously, read up on this stuff. It truly is a fascinating journey of investigation, with some unique indiduals.

By the way, I'd still like to know what BBT has to do with evolution. Both theories have overwhelming corroborating evidence, but are hardly interchangeable.

Edit: Corrected embarrassing Grauniad-style typo.

well it was more along the lines of this question right here:

at what point did inorganic material turn into organic life forms and what caused it?

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and i dnt claim to be an athiest, they are dogmatic, just another religion to me, both are the same and equally unbalanced.

i am anti-religious

I do not yet know my origin, and neither do you.

How is atheism a religion? Is theism a religion?

/same old same old

thats what you got out of that? the classification of a person is more important than what i wrote to you? you are religious.

Okay, thanks for saying nothing worth a fuck. You didn't answer either of my questions.

theism is dogmatic and atheism is dogmatic so yes they are both religions.

there,

now answer mine,

at what point did inorganic matter turn into an organic life form and what caused it? answer that and you prove that atheism is not dogmatic, fail to answer it and swallow the bitter pill.

You are NOT a bright person.

lol atheists! you want to talk about what is not but you have no idea what is!!!

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once more for the slow learners,

at what point did inorganic material turn into organic life forms and what caused it?

prove your religion atheists whats the answer?