(August 22, 2013 at 6:42 am)enrico Wrote: What a garbage!!!
Thousand of people who had NDE experience tell you the opposite and it make sense considering their clear vision without a body.
They could even see what was in adjoining rooms where they never been before.

Proof or GTFO!

(August 22, 2013 at 4:43 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: Non-life does not "crave life" it can't it has no mental processes.

Did anybody told you that instinct does not need a mental process?
Uranium crave for freedom and yet does not have brains.

Quote:Evolution of consciousness is entirely dependent on evolution of the brain in the same way that shit is dependent on the intestine.

Vegetable and minerals haven't got a brain and yet they evolve.
What push a climber to move around in search for better condition is not the brain which they haven't got but is the consciousness through the instinct.
One more thing. It is not the brain that shape the consciousness but the other way around.

Quote:The only people saying humans came from nowhere are creationists. Humans evolved and have a long lineage.

Ah, ah again you are talking about collective evolution while i am talking about personal evolution.
Collective evolution is as bad as creationists in which you become a human being without passing from lower form of life to higher form of life.
Same garbage same dogma.
Nobody in nature is jumping the evolutionary queue.
If in this life you behave like an idiot in the next life is very likely that you will reincarnate into a cockroach and a dog may reincarnate into a human being.
If your piece of consciousness will fit in that particular mosaic then you will get there. It does not really matter what you were before.
It is all up to where your consciousness will take you.

Quote:I think you have misunderstood what people have posted.

Life is full of misunderstanding.

(August 22, 2013 at 7:32 am)enrico Wrote: Vegetable and minerals haven't got a brain and yet they evolve.

And they evolve different than each other, I might add, as veggies are actually biological life. And we have yet to see evidence of minerals, or uranium for that matter, yearning for existence as life. Nor do we see evidence of either veggies or minerals having an evolution of consciousness. But I'm sure the voices in your head tell you otherwise.

(August 22, 2013 at 7:00 am)Kayenneh Wrote: Proof or GTFO!

You have to excuse me but i am not an intellectual like you so would you please tell me what is your GTFO?

By the way it remind me what my spiritual teacher said about intellectuals.
Two guys were wondering in the bush in search for food.
When they saw a mangoes tree full of ripe mangoes one guy star picking up the mangoes and eating them while the other start counting the leaves the branches and checking other details.
Well this is the difference between an intellectual and a practical person.
But he refrain to say who is smart and who is not.

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(August 22, 2013 at 7:47 am)Psykhronic Wrote:

(August 22, 2013 at 7:32 am)enrico Wrote: Vegetable and minerals haven't got a brain and yet they evolve.

And they evolve different than each other, I might add, as veggies are actually biological life. And we have yet to see evidence of minerals, or uranium for that matter, yearning for existence as life. Nor do we see evidence of either veggies or minerals having an evolution of consciousness. But I'm sure the voices in your head tell you otherwise.

Actually is not my head that tell me this.
Is the aura around a plant that tell you whether she is happy or not.
When you pull a veggie off the soil or you just cut a leaf the aura goes dark.

(August 22, 2013 at 7:32 am)enrico Wrote: Uranium crave for freedom and yet does not have brains.

LOL! Speed reading with impaired vision had me thinking this said "Your cranium craves freedom, it does not have brains".

I tended to agree.

A proper reading later and I am convinced. Quit huffing paint thinner, enrico!

Auras are a type of hallucination, ya know. You can get them from migraines (which can be "silent") or epilepsy, and I think sometimes even a dissociative disorder may incite them.

(July 17, 2013 at 11:03 am)enrico Wrote:

(July 17, 2013 at 10:45 am)cato123 Wrote: Belief in evolution does not require faith. Try again.

You are off track.
I am talking about the contradiction of believing in two opposite.
How can anyone believe in evolution when at the same time not believing in consciousness progress and evolution which can only come from lower form of life to higher form of life and therefore comport reincarnation.
How can you expect to get a higher form of consciousness in just a life time?
Where this higher consciousness suppose to come from?
From Santa?

Nothing you say here is valid in any way. You are using a circular reasoning to even make the above statement. That makes it validity and relevance zero.

Evolution and reincarnation do not ride in the same cart. One requires you to believe yes believe in something you cannot in any physical way prove. Evolution while probably not accurate yet requires you examine so called evidence and then draw the conclusion the major scientific community does or produce your own theory for or against or changing from both based on the current accepted evidence.

I am guessing English is not your first written language and you may just be mistyping something in your sentences. I cannot be sure but either way nothing you say here has any basis in science or theology. It is just nonsense without merit.

Evolution is not I repeat a theological doctrine of any faith based belief. It is a scientific theory that in itself is not proved 100%. It is far closer based on what empirical evidence exists than any theology I have ever seen and fits far closer to what we see even now on earth than any fable story tale myth or fantasy to make you seem less alone.

Santa Clause would never have created us or reincarnation. He is a far smarter fantasy than many I have heard and he would agree with the lack of logic in your statements.

(August 22, 2013 at 7:47 am)enrico Wrote: You have to excuse me but i am not an intellectual like you so would you please tell me what is your GTFO?

WDYFGI?

(August 22, 2013 at 7:47 am)enrico Wrote: You have to excuse me but i am not an intellectual like you so would you please tell me what is your GTFO?

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=gtfo

(August 22, 2013 at 9:28 am)Darwinian Wrote: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=gtfo

Daaaaar, don't make it too easy on Enrico, let him use that hyper-duper-super-über consciousness of his to find the answers