Enrico is proof that evolution is not linear; we can see the devolution of humankind in his words. While humanity continues one way, the Enricos of the world go another.

(September 2, 2013 at 2:35 pm)LostLocke Wrote: But what I don't get is what any of this has to do with your first statement about a "straight line".

(September 3, 2013 at 8:00 am)enrico Wrote: Downbeatplumb was telling that evolution is not linear (follow a straight line) while i was telling that it is.
That's all.
The dinosaurs may have disappeared for glaciation or other reasons but that does not mean that the linear evolution is interrupted.
Their consciousness will carry on in some other form of life so the linear evolution continue unabated.
Capishh!!!

Firstly glaciers did not kill the Dinosaurs a huge rock falling from space did. This put an end to that line of completely. Only the branch of dinosaurs that had already evolved into birds survived.

Evolution does not work how you think it does.
You seem to think it is a steady advance towards some goal. i get it, a lot of people, normally believers in some faith, make that mistake.
But the truth is evolution only means that it favours animals that are better fitted to the environment that they are in at the time.

If you are talking about some linear process that builds towards an end then you are not talking about biological evolution.

In fact you would be talking bollocks.

Capishe.

Maybe enrico believes in the crocoduck!

(September 3, 2013 at 12:08 pm)Minimalist Wrote: That idiot doesn't have that many brain cells left.

It's pretty clear that he's conserving them now.

(September 3, 2013 at 8:00 am)enrico Wrote: Downbeatplumb was telling that evolution is not linear (follow a straight line) while i was telling that it is.
That's all.
The dinosaurs may have disappeared for glaciation or other reasons but that does not mean that the linear evolution is interrupted.
Their consciousness will carry on in some other form of life so the linear evolution continue unabated.
Capishh!!!

Evolution isn't linear.

The best physical representation of evolution is a tree. Branches spring out from previous branches. Some of those branches are long and hardy, others are pretty thin and short. There's no direct 'lines' from one branch to another other than the branch it came from.

And if by "their consciousness" you mean the dinosaurs', that died out when they did.
Or technically, their "consciousness" is still around. It's just that today we call them birds.

Caphish?

Enrico, you're an absolute genius. You're deeper and more philosophical than I could ever dream of being. Please sign my breasts.

(September 3, 2013 at 8:00 am)enrico Wrote:

(September 2, 2013 at 6:07 pm)apophenia Wrote: We neither desired you nor sought you, and yet here you are, claiming to have brought us something of value.

Claiming?
I did not know that.
As far as i know i came here to have a bit of fun by confronting my philosophy with materialistic dogmas.

(September 3, 2013 at 1:08 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: Firstly glaciers did not kill the Dinosaurs a huge rock falling from space did. This put an end to that line of completely. Only the branch of dinosaurs that had already evolved into birds survived.

I can not believe how silly you are.
First i said that ...........the dinosaurs may have disappeared for glaciation or other reasons....which it means that it is not sure whether the dinosaur disappear for this or that reason so do not twist my words.
Secondly you stated that ....... a huge rock falling from space did. ........which is an other stupid statement considering that physical science is not so sure about the reason why dinosaurs disappear.
http://www.unmuseum.org/deaddino.htm

Quote:Evolution does not work how you think it does.
You seem to think it is a steady advance towards some goal. i get it, a lot of people, normally believers in some faith, make that mistake.
But the truth is evolution only means that it favours animals that are better fitted to the environment that they are in at the time.
If you are talking about some linear process that builds towards an end then you are not talking about biological evolution.

As you say...................evolution only means that it favours animals that are better fitted to the environment that they are in at the time.......and so far i do agree but you forget the fact that for the animal consciousness is totally irrelevant whether they survive physically speaking or not as the body is nothing but a shell.
The shell can well go to the dogs but the consciousness will carry on in a different body so evolution carry on in a linear way.
Again you are stuck in your materialistic dogma which only take in consideration the material-physical aspect of the situation.
If you are really interested in Biology then you should try to understand the real meaning of the word BIOLOGY which means the study of life.
What life is all about?
According to you it only means material-physical life as usual but who is the idiot that told you that life is only confined to the physical aspect?
Again you keep on floating in the dogma of materialism.

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(September 3, 2013 at 10:21 pm)apophenia Wrote:

Your contribution to this thread is as usual very great and important.
I am thinking of giving you a kudos or two.

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(September 3, 2013 at 11:59 am)Stimbo Wrote: I felt a great disturbance in the brain - as if millions of cells suddenly cried out in terror, and were suddenly silenced.

That is interesting.
So if the cells cried they must have consciousness as individual isn't it Stimbo?
It seems that consciousness is everywhere.

This is beyond stupid. This is a level of sub-stupid that can only be attained by devoting a decade to learning everything there is to know about a subject, then physically hacking the knowledge out of your brain with a rusty chisel dipped in LSD and replacing it with a phial of 100% proof liquid stupidity. You then take the removed parts of your brain that held the knowledge, place them by a large boulder, and spend thirty years gnawing the boulder into the shape of the word “stupidity.” Finally you flip the boulder of stupidity onto the scraps of brain using a JCB with the registration “Stup1d” and propelled by fossil fuels culled from mentally handicapped dinosaurs.

Then you manage to reverse the vehicle over yourself as a final testament to your stupidity.

No. Just no. The operative word in your statement is "if". It's the single most overworked word in the theists' language. Now follow it through with "if not" - complete the analysis. Then ask yourself why I opted to phrase my comment the way I did. (Hint: I may have been taking the piss.)

(September 4, 2013 at 9:07 am)Stimbo Wrote: This is beyond stupid. This is a level of sub-stupid that can only be attained by devoting a decade to learning everything there is to know about a subject, then physically hacking the knowledge out of your brain with a rusty chisel dipped in LSD and replacing it with a phial of 100% proof liquid stupidity. You then take the removed parts of your brain that held the knowledge, place them by a large boulder, and spend thirty years gnawing the boulder into the shape of the word “stupidity.” Finally you flip the boulder of stupidity onto the scraps of brain using a JCB with the registration “Stup1d” and propelled by fossil fuels culled from mentally handicapped dinosaurs.

Then you manage to reverse the vehicle over yourself as a final testament to your stupidity.

No. Just no. The operative word in your statement is "if". It's the single most overworked word in the theists' language. Now follow it through with "if not" - complete the analysis. Then ask yourself why I opted to phrase my comment the way I did. (Hint: I may have been taking the piss.)

Irony is not your favorite dish Stimbo.
How sad!