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RE: New Levels of Low
November 12, 2013 at 11:51 pm
(November 12, 2013 at 4:24 am)Godschild Wrote: (November 11, 2013 at 9:49 pm)whateverist Wrote: Try not to worry too much. In the unlikely event that I get called up as your witness, I've got your back.
Truly that would be the least thing to worry about, only the forgiven could understand God's justice.
GC
(November 11, 2013 at 9:20 pm)ChildOfReason Wrote: Wait, so if he answers your prayer, he exists. If he doesn't, he exists. Sounds logical.
So, your reasoning works like this, I ask you a question and you answer it you exist, you do not answer and you do not exist, silence would be golden.
GC
But it is possible to observe me, whether I answer the question or not.
The same can not be said about god.
¨I contend that we are both atheists, I just believe in one fewer god than you. When you understand why you dismiss all other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.¨
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RE: New Levels of Low
November 13, 2013 at 1:38 am
Do the theists understand gods justice or do they just give him the 'I can't fathom your reasoning because I'm a lowly human" , card?
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!
Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
Quote:Some people deserve hell.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
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RE: New Levels of Low
November 13, 2013 at 3:51 am
(November 12, 2013 at 4:29 am)Godschild Wrote: (November 12, 2013 at 4:26 am)Aral Gamelon Wrote: Just when I thought the arrogance had reached it's peak.
You're not forgiven and you do not understand God's justice, how much truer could the statement be.
GC
You're an arrogant, inhuman, immoral tosser.
That's the way to win us over buddy!
If you're indicating in someway that we're 'bad', then I know we're doing something right with our lives. If I ever became someone who resembled you, I think I'd want someone to shoot me.
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RE: New Levels of Low
November 13, 2013 at 3:55 am
(November 13, 2013 at 3:51 am)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: (November 12, 2013 at 4:29 am)Godschild Wrote: You're not forgiven and you do not understand God's justice, how much truer could the statement be.
GC
You're an arrogant, inhuman, immoral tosser.
That's the way to win us over buddy!
If you're indicating in someway that we're 'bad', then I know we're doing something right with our lives. If I ever became someone who resembled you, I think I'd want someone to shoot me. Well fidel wtf do you expect, for godschild to say something intelligent?
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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RE: New Levels of Low
November 13, 2013 at 4:30 am
(This post was last modified: November 13, 2013 at 4:32 am by Godscreated.)
(November 13, 2013 at 3:51 am)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: (November 12, 2013 at 4:29 am)Godschild Wrote: You're not forgiven and you do not understand God's justice, how much truer could the statement be.
GC
You're an arrogant, inhuman, immoral tosser.
That's the way to win us over buddy!
If you're indicating in someway that we're 'bad', then I know we're doing something right with our lives. If I ever became someone who resembled you, I think I'd want someone to shoot me.
I was not saying he is bad, though he does act that way. I said he was unforgiven by God and I am forgiven, for me to be forgiven I must be committing sins.
Can I have the first shot 
GC
(November 13, 2013 at 1:38 am)missluckie26 Wrote: Do the theists understand gods justice or do they just give him the 'I can't fathom your reasoning because I'm a lowly human" , card?
I can tell you all the Christians here understand God's judgement.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: New Levels of Low
November 13, 2013 at 4:40 am
(November 13, 2013 at 4:30 am)Godschild Wrote: (November 13, 2013 at 3:51 am)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: You're an arrogant, inhuman, immoral tosser.
That's the way to win us over buddy!
If you're indicating in someway that we're 'bad', then I know we're doing something right with our lives. If I ever became someone who resembled you, I think I'd want someone to shoot me.
I was not saying he is bad, though he does act that way. I said he was unforgiven by God and I am forgiven, for me to be forgiven I must be committing sins.
Can I have the first shot
GC
I wouldn't want someone like you to be anywhere near me or anyone I knew.
You're like an infection that can't be treated by antibiotics. Best way to stop getting infected is not to come into contact.
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RE: New Levels of Low
November 13, 2013 at 11:10 am
GC, Christians I've consulted say otherwise.
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!
Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
Quote:Some people deserve hell.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
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RE: New Levels of Low
November 13, 2013 at 2:24 pm
(This post was last modified: November 13, 2013 at 2:25 pm by Bob Kelso.)
(November 13, 2013 at 4:30 am)Godschild Wrote: (November 13, 2013 at 3:51 am)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: You're an arrogant, inhuman, immoral tosser.
That's the way to win us over buddy!
If you're indicating in someway that we're 'bad', then I know we're doing something right with our lives. If I ever became someone who resembled you, I think I'd want someone to shoot me.
I was not saying he is bad, though he does act that way. I said he was unforgiven by God and I am forgiven, for me to be forgiven I must be committing sins.
Can I have the first shot
GC
I find that you find my actions "bad" hilarious. I'm not always nice about things and I find your viewpoint laughable and give it no respect because of your attitude. That hardly denotes "bad" but hey you're welcome to your opinion.
Might I point out that you are black as well dear pot.
Sincerely,
Kettle
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RE: New Levels of Low
November 14, 2013 at 1:23 am
(November 7, 2013 at 3:29 am)Lion IRC Wrote: Lemonvariable72 if I show you the verse(s) will it change anything?
Life (a living soul), liberty (free will), happiness to pursue...
These are writ large throughout the bible as gifts intended and endowed by our Creator.
.Liberté, égalité, fraternité
There is no freedom which is not rooted in free will autonomy.
Equality is the fundamental principle which arises from the idea that every human life is sacred.
Fraternity does not exist except for the fact that we all have One Father.
Sure, you won't look like such a moron.
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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RE: New Levels of Low
November 14, 2013 at 1:26 am
(November 13, 2013 at 11:10 am)missluckie26 Wrote: GC, Christians I've consulted say otherwise.
Say, weren't you a Christian? I was, and I don't get it. I'm guessing you neither?
Guess we weren't Real Christians™.
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