Yesterday in the Hartford courant, Liberal newspaper, had this " One of the 6 myths about Obamacare" 1. is that it is affordable. What happened to it's not going to cost more than a monthly cellphone? Obama can lie with the best of them LOL I knew when the costs would be known it would put lots of financial stress on people.

manowar

(December 2, 2013 at 4:56 pm)Manowar Wrote: Yesterday in the Hartford courant, Liberal newspaper, had this " One of the 6 myths about Obamacare" 1. is that it is affordable. What happened to it's not going to cost more than a monthly cellphone? Obama can lie with the best of them LOL I knew when the costs would be known it would put lots of financial stress on people.

manowar

Have you checked to see how much your health insurance is now? Unless you can do that and compare that to the system without Obamacare, I'm forced to call 'bullshit.'

He also said it wouldn't be a tax, but it could only get passed under the tax clause.

I'm just going to pay the penalty myself. There is nothing in this law the benefits me.

(December 2, 2013 at 4:56 pm)Manowar Wrote: Yesterday in the Hartford courant, Liberal newspaper, had this " One of the 6 myths about Obamacare" 1. is that it is affordable. What happened to it's not going to cost more than a monthly cellphone? Obama can lie with the best of them LOL I knew when the costs would be known it would put lots of financial stress on people.

manowar

You are the dumbest bag of cunt hair apart from things that originate in Alaska.

Do you just read things and parrot them?

Do you have even understand the concept that the implementation matters more than the idea?

Do you even know that other post-industrial countries, on average, have some semblance of National Healthcare despite weaker economies?

Are you so fucking retarded dumb that you think "Obama can lie with the best of them LOL I knew when the costs would be known it would put lots of financial stress on people" actually means anything?

Having a discussion with you is like talking to a dining room table.

There were hundreds of alternative implementations of Health care. Many that could spread the costs transparently.

Hell, for fucks sake! You could even have lobbied your peers to cut medicare and lump it together into "Healthcare for all!"

Your only bitch is that you couldn't select the time-honored "Go to the Emergency Room and cost the Tax Payer hundreds to thousands of dollars" option.

Fuck you.

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Disclosure:
I have friends who would benefit from long term medical care to manage endemic conditions, but could not afford it due to American addiction to "ER Visits sans insurance".

You can't fix defective glands with a fucking ER visit.

Speaking personally, I know a lot of people who have been denied coverage because of a pre-existing condition and I've watched scummy insurance companies deny coverage to people because of a pre-existing condition (but they only deny it after taking money from them for years and years). If nothing else, I'm thrilled that pre-existing conditions will no longer automatically disqualify someone from having health insurance.

I still wish the bill included a public option, but at least we have a step in the right direction.

(December 2, 2013 at 4:58 pm)TaraJo Wrote:

(December 2, 2013 at 4:56 pm)Manowar Wrote: Yesterday in the Hartford courant, Liberal newspaper, had this " One of the 6 myths about Obamacare" 1. is that it is affordable. What happened to it's not going to cost more than a monthly cellphone? Obama can lie with the best of them LOL I knew when the costs would be known it would put lots of financial stress on people.

manowar

Have you checked to see how much your health insurance is now? Unless you can do that and compare that to the system without Obamacare, I'm forced to call 'bullshit.'

The paper said this and gives numbers so the bullshit is Obamacrap. I like that people can get insurance if they need to but should be mandated.
I am taking the penalty. Believe it or not I helped put that ASSHOLE in the Whitehouse which I regret. I have to worry about the penalty costs in a few years

manowar

I don't like Obamacare. I think nationalized healthcare is much better, but Obamacare is still better than the current system.

(December 2, 2013 at 5:08 pm)Manowar Wrote:

(December 2, 2013 at 4:58 pm)TaraJo Wrote: Have you checked to see how much your health insurance is now? Unless you can do that and compare that to the system without Obamacare, I'm forced to call 'bullshit.'

The paper said this and gives numbers so the bullshit is Obamacrap. I like that people can get insurance if they need to but should be mandated.
I am taking the penalty. I hate being right all the time. Believe it or not I helped put that ASSHOLE in the Whitehouse which I regret.

manowar

So, let me see if I understand what you're saying: You're complaining that Obamacare is costing you too much to get insurance, so you're going to just pay the penalty. That would make sense except that you aren't even seeing how much insurance would cost you (it may very well be a lot less than the penalty).

(December 2, 2013 at 5:13 pm)TaraJo Wrote: So, let me see if I understand what you're saying: You're complaining that Obamacare is costing you too much to get insurance, so you're going to just pay the penalty. That would make sense except that you aren't even seeing how much insurance would cost you (it may very well be a lot less than the penalty).

On one hand, the commercial offers I am helping other people with are >95$ per month (greater than the penalty). So there is some truth to some complaints.

On the other hand, they are at least using my State's health care exchange and I've already got most of them on track for State-assisted medical insurance.

In the end run, we all have something in the works. And I made sure my peers and family got a look at the market rates.

A lot more than Manowar's fellation of the conservative rag paper.