Great. Your invisible sky daddy created stuff. By what mechanism does your unproven creator do this? Please note that blowing hot air around here is not the way to get your point across. Without definitive proof, you can blow god, Jesus, and any other make believe entity out your ass.

(December 8, 2013 at 9:41 am)BadWriterSparty Wrote: Great. Your invisible sky daddy created stuff. By what mechanism does your unproven creator do this? Please note that blowing hot air around here is not the way to get your point across. Without definitive proof, you can blow god, Jesus, and any other make believe entity out your ass.

Hot air rises. Dense comments sink. Perhaps you should examine the two comments and contrast the one that burns and the one that rises from the heat. In discussion, you should always speak for the other person in the manner in which they should be speaking for themselves. Bias, condescension and anger only build ground for the other person to stand above you by comparison.

Don't tickle the dragon if you can't take the heat. Einstein agreed with my comment on Time, Space, Matter and Energy. God was there first with the concept. Einstein had to figure it out.

(December 8, 2013 at 9:07 am)StrongWaters Wrote:

(December 8, 2013 at 5:47 am)daandaan Wrote: words do not exist in timelessness or as u call it eternity ...becouse they take time to pronounce or think of in a way to make scentences...apart from the fact that there is no wave function becouse the absence of air..

and an other question

WHO CREATED THE DARNESS (gen 1.2) THAT WAS THERE BEFORE GOD CREATED THE LIGHT IN GEN 1.3??

FOR DARKNESS TO BE THERE, THERE HAD TO BE ``SOMETHING`` BEFORE, BECOUSE`` NOTHING`` DOESNT EVEN ALLOW DARKNESS TO EXIST ..

SO WHO CREATED THAT ``SOMETHING`` OUT OF ``NOTHING`` ALLOWING UR GOD TO CREATE THE HEAVENS AND EARTH (GEN 1.1) IN THAT ``SOMETHING`` IN THE DARKNESS??

In the beginning (TIME), God created the Heavens (Space) and the Earth (Matter)...Let there be light (Energy).

Creating an image is far different than rendering those seeds into form. The creation of the image could have been done with an information system of some type. By saying the waters of the deep were formless and void, this is hydrogen in a high state of order with low entropy.

yeah indeed in the beginning ur nonexisting god created nothing ...becouse in gen 1.1 it states only the heavens and earth

now earth ..isnt the same as the scientific term for matter ..the heavens isnt the scientific term for space ...and in the beginning isnt the scientific term for time and ligt isnt the scientific term for energy ..

its a nice set of apologetic lies that doesnt say anything ...however we know all what ur nonexisting god supposedly created ..a flat earth , and a dome over it with some candles attached to the walls repersenting stars...and the sun and the moon who r both resting in tents ...and god, laid himself the beams that where to support the floor of his chamber on top of his creation ..

oh , and he had to build a solid construction to keep the waters from above from crashing into his little kingdom ..

that hardly sound siency to me ..dont u think So??

now, who did created that something out of nothing that was filled with darkness before ur nonexisting god supposedly created the heavens and earth ...meaning that there was something BEFORE ur nonexisting god , was able to switch on his informationsystem of some type ...and WHO CREATED THAT FOR HIM ......AND WHO CREATED ``THE WATERS`` FOR HIM TO DEVIDE...that where there in gen 1.2..

BECOUSE HE DIDNT CREATE THEM AS WELL..

oh and i almost forgot ..ur buybull doesnt say that ur god had to create an ``information system of some kind`` to create his creation ..
so ur overstretching the boundries of ur creation story (lies) to try to make a case for him ..

so i thank u for proving that ur god is subjected to evolution as well...becouse ur lies have to evolve to make a case for him ..

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(December 8, 2013 at 9:58 am)StrongWaters Wrote:

(December 8, 2013 at 9:41 am)BadWriterSparty Wrote: Great. Your invisible sky daddy created stuff. By what mechanism does your unproven creator do this? Please note that blowing hot air around here is not the way to get your point across. Without definitive proof, you can blow god, Jesus, and any other make believe entity out your ass.

Hot air rises. Dense comments sink. Perhaps you should examine the two comments and contrast the one that burns and the one that rises from the heat. In discussion, you should always speak for the other person in the manner in which they should be speaking for themselves. Bias, condescension and anger only build ground for the other person to stand above you by comparison.

Don't tickle the dragon if you can't take the heat. Einstein agreed with my comment on Time, Space, Matter and Energy. God was there first with the concept. Einstein had to figure it out.

Next you going to tell me how to wipe my ass too? My momma showed me how that one works ages ago; your advice is unwarranted and greatly unwanted.

How do you know your god exists? If you can't demonstrate your knowledge, then your hot air will continue to rise. Perhaps my dense comments will sink you first?

(December 8, 2013 at 10:04 am)daandaan Wrote:

(December 8, 2013 at 9:07 am)StrongWaters Wrote: In the beginning (TIME), God created the Heavens (Space) and the Earth (Matter)...Let there be light (Energy).

Creating an image is far different than rendering those seeds into form. The creation of the image could have been done with an information system of some type. By saying the waters of the deep were formless and void, this is hydrogen in a high state of order with low entropy.

yeah indeed in the beginning ur nonexisting god created nothing ...becouse in gen 1.1 it states only the heavens and earth

now earth ..isnt the same as the scientific term for matter ..the heavens isnt the scientific term for space ...and in the beginning isnt the scientific term for time and ligt isnt the scientific term for energy ..

its a nice set of apologetic lies that doesnt say anything ...however we know all what ur nonexisting god supposedly created ..a flat earth , and a dome over it with some candles attached to the walls repersenting stars...and the sun and the moon who r both resting in tents ...and god, laid himself the beams that where to support the floor of his chamber on top of his creation ..

oh , and he had to build a solid construction to keep the waters from above from crashing into his little kingdom ..

that hardly sound siency to me ..dont u think do??

now, who did created that something out of nothing that was filled with darkness before ur nonexisting god supposedly created the heavens and earth ...meaning that there was something BEFORE ur nonexisting god , was able to switch on his informationsyste of some type ...and WHO CREATED THAT FOR HIM ......AND WHO CREATED ``THE WATERS`` FOR HIM TO DEVIDE...that where there in gen 1.2..

BECOUSE HE DIDNT CREATE THEM AS WELL..

The strong nuclear force follows a law of invariant symmetry. The waters (hydrogen) is first in a state of high order and low entropy. Hydrogen is one proton (+) and one electron (-) in balance. For individuation to occur and the elements to coalesce, we need the neutron (Nucleus) and invariant symmetry to heel the electron in the reaction. This is the first walled city. From here, we have cell walls above and below. The atmosphere is merely one example. The wall of the cell is another. Our skin is another. All of this is due to invariant symmetry.

God is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow. Scoffing at truth requires some context to demonstrate. I hold the high ground with the axioms in the Bible. They are true.

The word True is Aleph Mem Nun, or Strong Water and Seed. It is AMN in Hebrew, or AMEN in English.



We can't have a seed apart from the starting point with the waters. Water is the catalyst for letters (Aleph Bet is Father in Hebrew) and the Word (Son is Bet Nun, or House of Seed). Mother is Aleph Mem, or strong waters. God is invariant. Rotate this truth how we like, but it will always be the same. It is invariant. Once we find the symmetry in the letters and words, we have found what is most evident, or the highest axiom.

Notice that my words use context. I have not said anything about you.

Oh, and you didn't answer my question about the mechanism by which your pet god creates. If you keep stopping to sniff the farts of your fairy tale deity you'll miss more than just the questions we ask you.

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WELL IT STILL ISNT SCIENCE...BECOUSE HYDROGEN NEEDS A LOT OF FUSION TO BE TURNED INTO OXYGEN ..BEFORE WATER CAN EXIST ..


AND PLEASE TELL ME WHERE IN GENESISIS STATED THAT GOD CREATED ``AN INFORMATION SYSTEM OF SOMEKIND`` TO CREATE HIS CREATION BEFORE HE CREATED THE HEAVENS AND THE EARTH IN GEN 1.1

IT LOOKS LIKE UR GOD IS SUBJECTED TO EVOLUTION BECOUSE UR LIES HAVE TO EVOLVE TO KEEP MAKING A CASE FOR HIM ,,,,

(December 8, 2013 at 10:11 am)BadWriterSparty Wrote:

(December 8, 2013 at 9:58 am)StrongWaters Wrote: Hot air rises. Dense comments sink. Perhaps you should examine the two comments and contrast the one that burns and the one that rises from the heat. In discussion, you should always speak for the other person in the manner in which they should be speaking for themselves. Bias, condescension and anger only build ground for the other person to stand above you by comparison.

Don't tickle the dragon if you can't take the heat. Einstein agreed with my comment on Time, Space, Matter and Energy. God was there first with the concept. Einstein had to figure it out.

Next you going to tell me how to wipe my ass too? My momma showed me how that one works ages ago; your advice is unwarranted and greatly unwanted.

How do you know your god exists? If you can't demonstrate your knowledge, then your hot air will continue to rise. Perhaps my dense comments will sink you first?

Demonstrated here: Aleph Bet and the Word He writes..

Demonstrated? Just saying something is true does not make it so. Nice try though.

WHERE IN SCIENCE IS WRITTEN THAT HYDROGEN IS WATER ??

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