(December 8, 2013 at 1:30 pm)Sleepy Wrote: It's obvious you're biased and not doing your job as a moderator because several individuals have stated many thing which I did not say

How interesting that you accused me of bias! Considering that you don't know the nature of the reports, nor the course of action that I endorsed regarding those reports, nor even if I've gotten around to even taking action on them, you aren't really in possession of any information that would lead you to thinking I'm biased, are you? The only thing you actually know is that I'm watching this thread!

Besides, what others may or may not have said has nothing to do with the reports filed against you, which is the reason why I'm here. If you feel you have a grievance, feel free to make your own report, which will be given equal consideration by me and a team of moderators who aren't me, eliminating that pesky bias you have no legitimate reason to think exists. Though I'll remind you that Nora was kind enough to post a repository of quotes from you here, so report at your own peril.

Quote:If you believe atheism does not entail relativism and the possibility for an individual to think rape is ok than that's on you, but it's 100% incorrect and you know this.

Don't presume to tell me what I know, you arrogant little fool.

"Then be honest and say, "Yeah, I guess I was putting atheists in a box."
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Everybody has a box. Every individual has a box. Some boxes and Christian, Jewish, Hindu, relativist

The Islamic box tells people to get out of their box. Do not remain ignorant. Seek knowledge. Be educated. Advance society peacefully and for peaceful purposes. Use dialogue. Do not attack first. This is Islam. A husband is supposed to have respect for his wife and they are both to fulfill each sexual, emotional, mental desires, love each other and live with harmony.

Then prove you're escaping your box by listening to and actually weighing what we say.

(December 8, 2013 at 1:40 pm)Sleepy Wrote: The Islamic box tells people to get out of their box. Do not remain ignorant. Seek knowledge. Be educated. Advance society peacefully and for peaceful purposes.

So then why is the penalty for apostasy, death?

(December 8, 2013 at 1:40 pm)Sleepy Wrote: The Islamic box tells people to get out of their box. Do not remain ignorant. Seek knowledge. Be educated. Advance society peacefully and for peaceful purposes. Use dialogue. Do not attack first. This is Islam. A husband is supposed to have respect for his wife and they are both to fulfill each sexual, emotional, mental desires, love each other and live with harmony.

Uhm, dude? In case you aren't paying attention to current events, the Islamic theocracies of the world are doing the exact opposite of that. They are ignorant. They aren't educated. They are staying in their rigid boxes of acceptable Islamic behavior, even when he rest of the civilized world tells them not to. They're only interested in dialog when the only other option is their own destruction. They're aggressive, not peaceful. They're attacking first over and over again. They don't respect their wives, or women in general, and they don't care about living in harmony with anyone.

I mean, really, are you living in Bizarro world or something?

Note: The following has been colour coded in an attempt to help dopey understand the problem with his posts.

(December 8, 2013 at 1:30 pm)Sleepy Wrote:

(December 8, 2013 at 1:25 pm)Esquilax Wrote: The individual is a mod, fuckwit: when one guy (that's you, for the record) starts pulling multiple reports in the space of a few minutes, in one single thread, part of my job here is to keep an eye on things. I won't be shamed by Mister Most-Likely-To-Be-Banned-Soon for doing my goddamned job.

It's obvious you're biased and not doing your job as a moderator because several individuals have stated many thing which I did not say
If you believe atheism does not entail relativism and the possibility for an individual to think rape is ok than that's on you, but it's 100% incorrect and you know this.

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The individual from London, thanks for collecting those posts. You can see that I've repeated it's unethical. No moral person will
force their spouse physically to have sex with them. The punishment of death is for rapists, not for husbands who did something immoral and wrong. It is immoral and wrong but marriage entails sex. It's a big part of it, they both give each other themselves mentally, emotionally, and sexually

If a woman raped a man sentence is death
If a women raped a husband while married punishment is not death
If a husband denies wife sex besides being sick, hurt, injured it is a sin
If a wife denies husband sex besides being sick, injured it is a sin

See. You're doing it again. Saying rape is immoral should be punishable by death (in green), then jump straight in to condoning rape (in red). Read your own post. It doesn't matter what YOU thing marriage means. If a woman doesn't meant to have sex wit you, and you fuck her anyway, it's rape. YOU aren't the one who gets to decide whether or not you're committing a crime.

If I flew over to Florida and shot you dead right now and said it wasn't murder, that wouldn't make it not murder.

(December 8, 2013 at 1:30 pm)Sleepy Wrote: If a woman raped a man sentence is death

Actually Allah does not say such a thing in Quran but rapist are usually executed in muslim communities and I'm agree about death penalty.

(December 7, 2013 at 3:17 pm)Sleepy Wrote: One of the illogical things about atheists is their belief in relativity in everything. There is no absolutes in anything.

I am an atheist and that misrepresents what I believe. Your description is from the outside. Some might think that stoning women and sending them out in suicide vests for their political ends is the essence of Islam. But then they would be guilty of demonstrating as little insight or empathy for what Islam is as you demonstrate toward atheism. Like you, they would just be latching onto surface features of a mindset that isn't their own and using it to characterize the whole of it. The person who calls you a towel head is equivalent to, but no worse than, you are yourself.

Personally I acknowledge absolutes for myself. I am not empowered to force any absolutes on others and neither do I miss doing so. The fact that we have civil institutions for imposing consequences on individuals for asocial behavior is sufficient for me. The fact that, whatever the basis for our morality, we are able to come together and agree on and institute a common justice system shows that there is enormous similarity in our subjective sentiment in moral matters.

The absolutes I get through introspection aren't third-person absolutes, they are first-person absolutes. Certain kinds of asocial behavior feel bad to do. Disregarding the humanity of others feels bad to do. If my inner absolutes were different then I might well act differently. But they are my absolutes - truths about me that inform who I think I am.

That may not be enough for you. You might prefer to get your absolutes screamed at you by some indignant mullah. But really coercion is not really an adequate path to knowledge. And the opportunity to scream invectives at those we disagree with probably means more to you that it does to me.

An apostate had the truth and then decided to forsake it. The apostates I've read about lack a basic knowledge of Islam, they're worse than an atheist if that atheist isn't an apostate himself. There is no death penalty for atheists.
Now a days most countries including Iran don't kill apostates too often

(December 8, 2013 at 1:46 pm)Nineteen Wrote: Actually Allah does not say such a thing in Quran but rapist are usually executed in muslim communities

Yeah, about that.....
http://edition.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/meast/...eDSGpy-zPS

So, it looks like Muslims do believe the death penalty is fair punishment for rape.... but the rapist isn't the one they kill. Good job.