After seeing là bạn điên's poll, I wanted to make my own with more options & the ability to chose multiple options.

I'm sort of apolitical at the moment. I grew up conservative, then went to libertarianism and then went to anarcho-capitalism but now nothing politically makes sense to me anymore. Emotionally, I feel like a libertarian but I'm not logically convinced in libertarianism.

I'm syncretic, so I voted anarchism (because I'm a big fan of Emma Goldman-style anarchism), communism (because I support the abolition of private property), right populism (because I want to stop Muslim immigration), libertarianism (because I support free-markets), republicanism (because I support the republican form of democratic government), Zionism & secularism.

(January 7, 2014 at 12:44 pm)MarxRaptor Wrote: I'm syncretic, so I voted anarchism (because I'm a big fan of Emma Goldman-style anarchism), communism (because I support the abolition of private property), right populism (because I want to stop Muslim immigration), libertarianism (because I support free-markets), republicanism (because I support the republican form of democratic government), Zionism & secularism.

Are you schizophrenic? How do you live with so many contradictory political philosophies?

(January 7, 2014 at 12:51 pm)teaearlgreyhot Wrote:

(January 7, 2014 at 12:44 pm)MarxRaptor Wrote: I'm syncretic, so I voted anarchism (because I'm a big fan of Emma Goldman-style anarchism), communism (because I support the abolition of private property), right populism (because I want to stop Muslim immigration), libertarianism (because I support free-markets), republicanism (because I support the republican form of democratic government), Zionism & secularism.

Are you schizophrenic? How do you live with so many contradictory political philosophies?

Market socialism is a coherently philosophy. Market communism isn't. I imagine that MarxRaptor is conflating the two, which is common.

(January 7, 2014 at 12:58 pm)Gish Wrote:

(January 7, 2014 at 12:51 pm)teaearlgreyhot Wrote: Are you schizophrenic? How do you live with so many contradictory political philosophies?

Market socialism is a coherently philosophy. Market communism isn't. I imagine that MarxRaptor is conflating the two, which is common.

What is incoherent about market communism?

(January 7, 2014 at 1:08 pm)MarxRaptor Wrote:

(January 7, 2014 at 12:58 pm)Gish Wrote: Market socialism is a coherently philosophy. Market communism isn't. I imagine that MarxRaptor is conflating the two, which is common.

What is incoherent about market communism?

Communism is more than just the abolition the private ownership of capital goods. Goods are distributed via planning. The system that you seem to be advocating looks more like market socialism, in which private ownership of capital goods is abolished, but goods are allocated on a free-market. Workers form democratic co-ops as opposed to communes.

When I was a socialist, I saw communism as a form of usury, which was my problem with capitalism. Since then, I have rejected the labour theory of value and have turned over to the dark side.

Honestly, you have more in common than with Benjamin Tucker and Pierre Proudhon than you do with Marx.

(January 7, 2014 at 2:00 pm)Gish Wrote:

(January 7, 2014 at 1:08 pm)MarxRaptor Wrote: What is incoherent about market communism?

Communism is more than just the abolition the private ownership of capital goods. Goods are distributed via planning. The system that you seem to be advocating looks more like market socialism, in which private ownership of capital goods is abolished, but goods are allocated on a free-market. Workers form democratic co-ops as opposed to communes.

When I was a socialist, I saw communism as a form of usury, which was my problem with capitalism. Since then, I have rejected the labour theory of value and have turned over to the dark side.

Honestly, you have more in common than with Benjamin Tucker and Pierre Proudhon than you do with Marx.

I'm not a Marxist, Marx has just greatly influenced me.

Karl Marx Wrote:The theory of Communism may be summed up in one sentence: Abolish all private property.

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Also, my reasons for rejecting orthodox Marxism seem much different than yours. I rejected it as I cam to see egoism as more desirable than altruism. I now believe in a more egoist form of communism, & I also read about the post-left anarchists & they appeal to me.

(January 7, 2014 at 2:02 pm)MarxRaptor Wrote:

Karl Marx Wrote:The theory of Communism may be summed up in one sentence: Abolish all private property.

You can't just condense an entire political theory into a single sentence and think that you've covered everything. Marx was explicitly anti-market. I understand that communism is an extremely diverse philosophy, but the maxim from each according to his ability, to each according to his need lies at the heart of all of them.

(January 7, 2014 at 2:18 pm)Gish Wrote:

(January 7, 2014 at 2:02 pm)MarxRaptor Wrote:

You can't just condense an entire political theory into a single sentence and think that you've covered everything. Marx was explicitly anti-market. I understand that communism is an extremely diverse philosophy, but the maxim from each according to his ability, to each according to his need lies at the heart of all of them.

I believe that the market will eventually be abolished in a thousand years when humanity has been perfected through eugenics.