(January 17, 2014 at 1:11 pm)EgoRaptor Wrote: We care about the equality of racial minorities. But sometimes we take it too far, & see racism where there is none.

And sometimes we assume because explicit racism is no longer socially acceptable, that means that subconscious racial bias does not exist. Did you not look at the article I referenced, or do you simply not wish to comment on it?

That whole thing of " I'm not racist so it's not my problem." doesn't help anyone at all. It's sweeping a shit ton subtle issues under the rug.

Yeah, okay, Ego, as someone with a niece and nephew of mixed race and who has an old friend-of-the-family with a black stepfather and a white mother, both of which are also friends of the family, I cannot take you seriously. I've seen the racism here in fucking Massachusetts. You're not going to convince me by saying 'IT DOESN'T EXIST'. You'd have to prove it better than that. And while you're at it, read 'Savage Inequalities' by Kozol and contradict everything in that book. Then maybe I'll believe you.

(January 17, 2014 at 1:11 pm)EgoRaptor Wrote: But sometimes we take it too far, & see racism where there is none.

You mean like yourself in that Ariel Sharon thread? Hmm?

Stupid pictures are not convincing. I am just shy of outright dismissing you, Ego, and I do not even know why I am giving you this much leeway.

(January 17, 2014 at 1:18 pm)Psykhronic Wrote: Stupid pictures are not convincing. I am just shy of outright dismissing you, Ego, and I do not even know why I am giving you this much leeway.

And what evidence do you have? Race-baiting & antisemitism? I hear insults & hate speech against Jews all the time, yet never do a crowd of angry leftists appear to protest that.

Told you already, besides experience I also listed a reading source about the subject for you to pull apart if you want me to believe you. I'm done with you now.

(January 17, 2014 at 1:25 pm)EgoRaptor Wrote:

(January 17, 2014 at 1:18 pm)Psykhronic Wrote: Stupid pictures are not convincing. I am just shy of outright dismissing you, Ego, and I do not even know why I am giving you this much leeway.

And what evidence do you have? Race-baiting & antisemitism? I hear insults & hate speech against Jews all the time, yet never do a crowd of angry leftists appear to protest that.

If you are a jew and hear anti-jew things being said "all the time" do you think that you may be being annoying and the speech is a reaction to you?

One huge issue with this is that there are a number of white people (especially old people and middle/upper class people) who, for reasons I don't quite get, don't really consider people who aren't white and male to be "people". I don't know if they realise that, but there you go. Until other races are considered people, there will be the problem of "White Privilege". If you're a white man you're more likely to get a good job, more likely to be promoted at any job you do get, more likely to get into a good university, more likely to win an election, more likely to be approved for a loan or a credit card, less likely to be stopped and searched by police, less likely to be arrested, less likely to be found guilty in court, and if you are found guilty you're more likely to get a lower sentence, than anyone else. Oh, and if you're a white man in the US you can shoot a black person and many people will think the very idea of arresting and investigating you for murder is absurd, as if you just shot a deer or something.

I really don't know what we can do about the issue, but education would be good. Getting rid of "Black History Month" and just include it in normal history classes at any time of year could be helpful. I understand why BHM exists, but all it seems to do is make racists cry "WHY ISN'T THERE A WHITE HISTORY MONTH!" as if that's not what the other 11 months of the year are, and that really doesn't help.

I hate the whole thing and just don't see why people can't just all be treated the same, regardless of race, gender or ability.