(January 17, 2014 at 1:27 pm)Psykhronic Wrote: Told you already, besides experience I also listed a reading source about the subject for you to pull apart if you want me to believe you. I'm done with you now.

Why should he pay any attention to material you post when no one has bothered to address any of the points in the material he has posted?

I'd personally like to see someone systematically dismantle that first vid he posted, I can't see where it goes wrong IMHO.

He did not answer my question that I posted before that video. Thereby not paying attention to my material, so by your logic why should I pay attention to his video?

If I tell you I'm "white" you'll immediately allow whatever you perceive as white to be applied to me, and a similar, perhaps obverse, but certainly differing set of "values" will be placed upon me if I tell you I'm "black". This is why I hate labels. If we were all blind, we'd only have our character to go on. Sounds like someone we all know MLKJ


Tell me, can you guess my race solely based upon my words and references? Does my race matter?

(January 17, 2014 at 2:21 pm)Psykhronic Wrote: He did not answer my question that I posted before that video. Thereby not paying attention to my material, so by your logic why should I pay attention to his video?

Because he's at least expressing himself with something other than questions.

(January 17, 2014 at 1:27 pm)Psykhronic Wrote: Told you already, besides experience I also listed a reading source about the subject for you to pull apart if you want me to believe you. I'm done with you now.

I didn't see this in the thread, maybe you can point it out?

Questions are important, I see no reason to ignore them.

And here you are, sir Napo, edited out the irrelevant stuff -

(January 17, 2014 at 1:16 pm)Psykhronic Wrote: (...) And while you're at it, read 'Savage Inequalities' by Kozol and contradict everything in that book. Then maybe I'll believe you.

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To be fair, not EVERYTHING would need to be contradicted.

(January 17, 2014 at 2:32 pm)Psykhronic Wrote: Questions are important, I see no reason to ignore them.

I'm not disputing that, I just think EgoRaptor is offering an alternate opinion to most here and he's being bitchslapped for it without much in the way of disputing what he's said or posted. (These are at least my thoughts from the thread).

Quote:And here you are, sir Napo, edited out the irrelevant stuff -

(January 17, 2014 at 1:16 pm)Psykhronic Wrote: (...) And while you're at it, read 'Savage Inequalities' by Kozol and contradict everything in that book. Then maybe I'll believe you.

Fair enough, I missed that, apologies.

(January 17, 2014 at 2:39 pm)Napoléon Wrote:

(January 17, 2014 at 2:32 pm)Psykhronic Wrote: Questions are important, I see no reason to ignore them.

I'm not disputing that, I just think EgoRaptor is offering an alternate opinion to most here and he's being bitchslapped for it without much in the way of disputing what he's said or posted. (These are at least my thoughts from the thread).

Quote:And here you are, sir Napo, edited out the irrelevant stuff -

Fair enough, I missed that, apologies.

Yeah someone really could dispute him more, I'll agree. Honestly, I just get burnt out as soon as this subject is brought up so I've been adding bare minimum to the discussion. Don't ask me why my silly head decided it would be a good idea to start posting in this thread.

And it is no problem, words are easily lost amongst themselves

(January 17, 2014 at 1:58 pm)NoraBrimstone Wrote: One huge issue with this is that there are a number of white people (especially old people and middle/upper class people) who, for reasons I don't quite get, don't really consider people who aren't white and male to be "people". I don't know if they realise that, but there you go. Until other races are considered people, there will be the problem of "White Privilege". If you're a white man you're more likely to get a good job, more likely to be promoted at any job you do get, more likely to get into a good university, more likely to win an election, more likely to be approved for a loan or a credit card, less likely to be stopped and searched by police, less likely to be arrested, less likely to be found guilty in court, and if you are found guilty you're more likely to get a lower sentence, than anyone else. Oh, and if you're a white man in the US you can shoot a black person and many people will think the very idea of arresting and investigating you for murder is absurd, as if you just shot a deer or something.

I really don't know what we can do about the issue, but education would be good. Getting rid of "Black History Month" and just include it in normal history classes at any time of year could be helpful. I understand why BHM exists, but all it seems to do is make racists cry "WHY ISN'T THERE A WHITE HISTORY MONTH!" as if that's not what the other 11 months of the year are, and that really doesn't help.

I hate the whole thing and just don't see why people can't just all be treated the same, regardless of race, gender or ability.

Actually you are less likely to achieve any of these things because of the apartheid of affirmative action.

Affirmative action wouldn't be needed if people would lobby for increased education spending and hiring solely off of personality and qualifications.

It's a shitty system, however it is better than nothing.

I would gladly welcome a better replacement.

(January 17, 2014 at 8:12 pm)Moros Synackaon Wrote: Affirmative action wouldn't be needed if people would lobby for increased education spending and hiring solely off of personality and qualifications.

It's a shitty system, however it is better than nothing.

I would gladly welcome a better replacement.

Isn't affirmative action a response to people being hired solely according to their merits?