(January 29, 2014 at 9:10 am)jg2014 Wrote: There is such a thing as ethics without religion you know. Are you saying we SHOULD never tell people what they SHOULD do? Seems a bit inconsistent to me.

No, we merely shouldn't try to force our ways on to other people. If someone has a personal preference then they can keep it to themselves.

Morality & ethics should be left up to the individual to decide for themselves. Don't try & force your ethics onto me. I will determine my own ethics.

(January 29, 2014 at 9:10 am)jg2014 Wrote: There is such a thing as ethics without religion you know. Are you saying we SHOULD never tell people what they SHOULD do? Seems a bit inconsistent to me.

That is because you have a religious mind set. You haven't grown out of it yet.

Do you still live at home with the parents?

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Stop anthropomorphising the world around you....are you STILL only two years old?

(January 29, 2014 at 9:13 am)EgoRaptor Wrote:

(January 29, 2014 at 9:10 am)jg2014 Wrote: There is such a thing as ethics without religion you know. Are you saying we SHOULD never tell people what they SHOULD do? Seems a bit inconsistent to me.

No, we merely shouldn't try to force our ways on to other people. If someone has a personal preference then they can keep it to themselves.

Morality & ethics should be left up to the individual to decide for themselves. Don't try & force your ethics onto me. I will determine my own ethics.

Right. But you are projecting your ethics on to me by saying vegans shouldn't tell meat eaters that what they are doing is wrong! Your argument isn't even consistent. And if we can't tell others that what they do is wrong, one can forget about law or justice or civilisation.

(January 29, 2014 at 9:24 am)jg2014 Wrote:

(January 29, 2014 at 9:13 am)EgoRaptor Wrote: No, we merely shouldn't try to force our ways on to other people. If someone has a personal preference then they can keep it to themselves.

Morality & ethics should be left up to the individual to decide for themselves. Don't try & force your ethics onto me. I will determine my own ethics.

Right. But you are projecting your ethics on to me by saying vegans shouldn't tell meat eaters that what they are doing is wrong! Your argument isn't even consistent. And if we can't tell others that what they do is wrong, one can forget about law or justice or civilisation.

Have a good look at what you just posted and then go over you prosetylising via this thread


Hypocrite much?

(January 29, 2014 at 9:31 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote:

(January 29, 2014 at 9:24 am)jg2014 Wrote: Right. But you are projecting your ethics on to me by saying vegans shouldn't tell meat eaters that what they are doing is wrong! Your argument isn't even consistent. And if we can't tell others that what they do is wrong, one can forget about law or justice or civilisation.

Have a good look at what you just posted and then go over you prosetylising via this thread


Hypocrite much?

Are you actually serious? I am not saying its wrong to tell others what they should do!

(January 29, 2014 at 9:39 am)jg2014 Wrote:

(January 29, 2014 at 9:31 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: Have a good look at what you just posted and then go over you prosetylising via this thread


Hypocrite much?

Are you actually serious? I am not saying its wrong to tell others what they should do!

Are you? Because that is what you are saying. That you have a right to tell others what they should do.

Do try to keep up with what you post.

(January 29, 2014 at 9:58 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote:

(January 29, 2014 at 9:39 am)jg2014 Wrote: Are you actually serious? I am not saying its wrong to tell others what they should do!

Are you? Because that is what you are saying. That you have a right to tell others what they should do.

Do try to keep up with what you post.

Yes, I think it right to tell others that what they do is wrong if you believe that. I have NEVER said otherwise. It is essential to society that we tell others they are wrong. Law could not exist without it. Show me where I said otherwise? If you are going to engage in debate it helps to read what others have written.

I did imply egoraptor was a hypocrite for at the same time claiming that vegans shouldn't tell others what to do, he was telling vegans what to do.

(January 29, 2014 at 10:06 am)jg2014 Wrote:

(January 29, 2014 at 9:58 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: Are you? Because that is what you are saying. That you have a right to tell others what they should do.

Do try to keep up with what you post.

Yes, I think it right to tell others that what they do is wrong if you believe that. I have NEVER said otherwise. It is essential to society that we tell others they are wrong. Law could not exist without it. Show me where I said otherwise? If you are going to engage in debate it helps to read what others have written.

I did imply egoraptor was a hypocrite for at the same time claiming that vegans shouldn't tell others what to do, he was telling vegans what to do.

When are you going to get it through your immature little skull that no one cares what you do, you are not important, your choices are your own and you have no right to expect people not to defend themselves against your prosetylising.

You have made a choice and want to anthropomorphisise the world around you? Good for you, now get on with it and leave everyone else to their lives. No one cares about your petty justifications of your life choices.

Pity is that there are those whose medical conditions demand vegan/ vegetarianism and you are doing nothing to help them.

(January 29, 2014 at 10:13 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: When are you going to get it through your immature little skull that no one cares what you do, you are not important, your choices are your own and you have no right to expect people not to defend themselves against your prosetylising.

You have made a choice and want to anthropomorphisise the world around you? Good for you, now get on with it and leave everyone else to their lives. No one cares about your petty justifications of your life choices.

Pity is that there are those whose medical conditions demand vegan/ vegetarianism and you are doing nothing to help them.

I suspect the animals care greatly about whether they are forced to live short brutal lives or not just to satisfy the desires of meat eaters.

(January 29, 2014 at 10:28 am)jg2014 Wrote:

(January 29, 2014 at 10:13 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: When are you going to get it through your immature little skull that no one cares what you do, you are not important, your choices are your own and you have no right to expect people not to defend themselves against your prosetylising.

You have made a choice and want to anthropomorphisise the world around you? Good for you, now get on with it and leave everyone else to their lives. No one cares about your petty justifications of your life choices.

Pity is that there are those whose medical conditions demand vegan/ vegetarianism and you are doing nothing to help them.

I suspect the animals care greatly about whether they are forced to live short brutal lives or not just to satisfy the desires of meat eaters.

Sorry sunshine. Spouting PETA propaganda ain't gonna cut it. You have made your choice and now you are trying to rub that choice into everyone's face whether they want to hear what you say or not. Ask a lion, raptor or other meat eater how they feel about you whiny pathetic choice of religious propaganda..... guaranteed they would say... "Lunch"