(December 2, 2013 at 6:10 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: Keep studying darlin' you are on the right tract.

I'd be happy to bury said person when he gets Streptococcus pneumoniae and dies from not getting a simple 'flu shot. Let's not even begin to list the various viruses he might get also.

I'd hate to bloody well clean up his PC / Laptop.

That's the fucker that nearly killed me last year - brought on as a complication from.. wait for it... influenza - and I was not considered a high risk.

I missed my flu shot that year. Never again.

Don't get vaccinated, and don't go to the doc when you get the flu. The mortician will love you for it.

Some occupations demand that you get vaccinated..... Like gardening for an example.
Tetanus is a wonderful way to die
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetanus

Yeah, I'm dealing with two specific anti-vax nuts. The first one is pretty obviously uneducated and can't seem to form a compete sentence without demolishing the English language. He believes in holistic medicine and actually rejects the germ theory altogether. I was kinda surprised to find that kind of lunacy in a world where you can actually see pathogens under a microscope. But, no, he's convinced that people get sick not from bacteria and viruses, but from eating processed foods and red meat. *facepalm*

The next one at least understands grammar and he was tending to be a bit quieter at first. When he came forward, his claim was that he has a couple of family members who worked for the CIA and because of that he doesn't trust what the put in the vaccines. That goes into some Alex Jones paranoia there and, fortunately, I think this guy only has a distrust of flu vaccines, not vaccines altogether. I suppose this one is far less dangerous, even if he is still an idiot.

Meanwhile, their body count keeps climbing. How many people have died because of getting a vaccine? Not very many. Has anyone died because of them?

http://jennymccarthybodycount.com/Anti-V.../Home.html

(March 9, 2014 at 9:47 am)TaraJo Wrote: Yeah, I'm dealing with two specific anti-vax nuts. The first one is pretty obviously uneducated and can't seem to form a compete sentence without demolishing the English language. He believes in holistic medicine and actually rejects the germ theory altogether. I was kinda surprised to find that kind of lunacy in a world where you can actually see pathogens under a microscope. But, no, he's convinced that people get sick not from bacteria and viruses, but from eating processed foods and red meat. *facepalm*

This 'Holistic' method of treatment has gotten out of hand.

'Holistic' for me means "treating the whole", as such that includes vaccinations, general hygiene, clean water AND whole foods.

I would agree that eating copious amounts of 'processed foods' can be detrimental to your health... Am currently baking my own bread because of the high amounts of Soy protein and additives that keep bread 'Fresh' for a week.

(March 9, 2014 at 9:47 am)TaraJo Wrote: The next one at least understands grammar and he was tending to be a bit quieter at first. When he came forward, his claim was that he has a couple of family members who worked for the CIA and because of that he doesn't trust what the put in the vaccines. That goes into some Alex Jones paranoia there and, fortunately, I think this guy only has a distrust of flu vaccines, not vaccines altogether. I suppose this one is far less dangerous, even if he is still an idiot.

Meanwhile, their body count keeps climbing. How many people have died because of getting a vaccine? Not very many. Has anyone died because of them?

http://jennymccarthybodycount.com/Anti-V.../Home.html

As far as I am aware... the 'body count' for death by vaccination is very low compared to the 'body count' for death from NON-vaccination.

(March 9, 2014 at 9:58 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote:

(March 9, 2014 at 9:47 am)TaraJo Wrote: Yeah, I'm dealing with two specific anti-vax nuts. The first one is pretty obviously uneducated and can't seem to form a compete sentence without demolishing the English language. He believes in holistic medicine and actually rejects the germ theory altogether. I was kinda surprised to find that kind of lunacy in a world where you can actually see pathogens under a microscope. But, no, he's convinced that people get sick not from bacteria and viruses, but from eating processed foods and red meat. *facepalm*

This 'Holistic' method of treatment has gotten out of hand.

'Holistic' for me means "treating the whole", as such that includes vaccinations, general hygiene, clean water AND whole foods.

I would agree that eating copious amounts of 'processed foods' can be detrimental to your health... Am currently baking my own bread because of the high amounts of Soy protein and additives that keep bread 'Fresh' for a week.

I'm talking about someone who claims we can better our health with better sanitation practices, eating fresh foods and rejecting modern medicine. The first two, I'm cool with as much as possible, but that third one goes into some crazy shit.

(March 9, 2014 at 9:47 am)TaraJo Wrote: But, no, he's convinced that people get sick not from bacteria and viruses, but from eating processed foods and red meat.

Enrico..?

I'll never understand the anti-vacs hysteria, it's beyond retarded.

I've only been Vaccinated once in my life for polio, I was about 9 years old, not long after the vaccine I started to have fits that lasted for 4 years, I also grew up with mental illness which developed into schizophrenia.

I've had multiple vaccinations my entire life and no mental health issues.

go figure

Quote:This 'Holistic' method of treatment has gotten out of hand. 

'Holistic' for me means "treating the whole", as such that includes vaccinations, general hygiene, clean water AND whole foods. 

Huge bugbear of mine. I'm all for Holistic... In the right place. If but it's taken on a weird meaning. Now it often means

"I'm not trained in the particular type of boo boo you've come to me with but I AM trained in a particular type of woo which I'm convinced affects everything, so I'll do some stuff on that while I wait for your symptoms to get better via regression to the mean. That'll be £40 please"

Sometimes reductionism is a GOOD thing. But you talk about treating the symptoms these days people look at you funny! What if I WANT my symptoms treated?

The other thing about "Holistic medicine" is that it's bloody hard / impossible to test. Science works by reducing variables and generating a falsifiable hypotheses. Holism specifically seeks to include all variables! Convenient no?

Holistic medicine. My aching arse!