(March 12, 2014 at 4:16 pm)discipulus Wrote:

(March 12, 2014 at 4:01 pm)Deidre32 Wrote: Are you being sarcastic? :p

No.

I am going to provide you a list of websites that I have found to be indispensable to my understanding of "bible difficulties".

http://www.str.org
http://www.bethinking.org (Deidre, in your spare time check this site out, it is awesome)
http://www.reasonablefaith.org
http://www.gotquestions.org
http://www.tektonics.org
http://www.apologetics315.com
http://www.apologeticspress.org
http://www.garyhabermas.com (considered to be The authority on the resurrection)
http://www.carm.org

Most if not all of the questions you have asked here have been answered by men and women who are experts in their related fields pertinent to the questions you are asking.

I have a wonderful book entitled: Is God a Moral Monster? by Paul Copan.

He has, in my opinion, done the most research into the difficult passages found in the OT.

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(March 12, 2014 at 4:11 pm)truthBtold Wrote: Finally a fight? But what ever u do... dont grab the junk... or u will loose ur hand..

No fight. Just trying to help is all.

While I appreciate this, discipulus, I don't need to turn to an interpreter to decipher the Bible. You believe in Jesus, well...remember he told his followers "let your yes mean yes and your no mean no?" Isn't it odd then that we need "Bible scholars" to translate the Bible for us mere laymen and women?

Or is it that we don't like what the Bible REALLY states, so we turn to a softer reflection of it so we can go on with our day?

discipulus, it is possible to believe, and then not believe. All it means is I choose to live my life based in reality and not on fables and folklore, convincing myself (and others) that it's so much more.

For 25 years I worked with a jewish guy who lived with his mom who kept a kosher kitchen. He hated kosher with a passion. Frequently at lunch he would order Fresh Ham or a bacon and sausage omelet. I would always chide him with "mom ain't going to like that." To which he'd reply "tough shit."

But he did consider himself jewish.

(March 12, 2014 at 4:27 pm)Minimalist Wrote: And right there, with his list, you see the problem with this troll. Every one of those sites defaults to ***************

Why don't you try something which is not geared explicitly towards telling you what you oh-so-desperately want to hear, troll? You know...maybe learn something by accident? Or is that too threatening?

Hmm....

Quite interesting indeed.

When I click on the links, they take me to the corresponding websites....

Maybe you have a virus on your computer??

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(March 12, 2014 at 4:37 pm)Deidre32 Wrote: While I appreciate this, discipulus, I don't need to turn to an interpreter to decipher the Bible. You believe in Jesus, well...remember he told his followers "let your yes mean yes and your no mean no?" Isn't it odd then that we need "Bible scholars" to translate the Bible for us mere laymen and women?

There are many members in the Body of Christ. Some have been called to be apologists. The sites I referred you to are apologetics sites, not translation sites.

(March 12, 2014 at 4:37 pm)Deidre32 Wrote: Or is it that we don't like what the Bible REALLY states, so we turn to a softer reflection of it so we can go on with our day?

I love the Bible, from the accounts of God creating life, to the accounts of God taking life. All of it is equally instructive to me.

(March 12, 2014 at 4:37 pm)Deidre32 Wrote: discipulus, it is possible to believe, and then not believe. All it means is I choose to live my life based in reality and not on fables and folklore, convincing myself (and others) that it's so much more.

That is your choice.

I also choose to live life based in reality and not on fables and folklore.

DERP DERP.

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Discipulus, you might have a better shot convincing people of your sanity here:
http://knowyourmeme.com/forums/general/t...ing-hoaxed

(March 12, 2014 at 4:37 pm)Deidre32 Wrote:

(March 12, 2014 at 4:16 pm)discipulus Wrote: No.

I am going to provide you a list of websites that I have found to be indispensable to my understanding of "bible difficulties".

http://www.str.org
http://www.bethinking.org (Deidre, in your spare time check this site out, it is awesome)
http://www.reasonablefaith.org
http://www.gotquestions.org
http://www.tektonics.org
http://www.apologetics315.com
http://www.apologeticspress.org
http://www.garyhabermas.com (considered to be The authority on the resurrection)
http://www.carm.org

Most if not all of the questions you have asked here have been answered by men and women who are experts in their related fields pertinent to the questions you are asking.

I have a wonderful book entitled: Is God a Moral Monster? by Paul Copan.

He has, in my opinion, done the most research into the difficult passages found in the OT.

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No fight. Just trying to help is all.

While I appreciate this, discipulus, I don't need to turn to an interpreter to decipher the Bible. You believe in Jesus, well...remember he told his followers "let your yes mean yes and your no mean no?" Isn't it odd then that we need "Bible scholars" to translate the Bible for us mere laymen and women?

Or is it that we don't like what the Bible REALLY states, so we turn to a softer reflection of it so we can go on with our day?

discipulus, it is possible to believe, and then not believe. All it means is I choose to live my life based in reality and not on fables and folklore, convincing myself (and others) that it's so much more.

Anything that requires apologetics is fundamentally flawed.

(March 12, 2014 at 4:44 pm)discipulus Wrote:

(March 12, 2014 at 4:27 pm)Minimalist Wrote: And right there, with his list, you see the problem with this troll. Every one of those sites defaults to ***************

Why don't you try something which is not geared explicitly towards telling you what you oh-so-desperately want to hear, troll? You know...maybe learn something by accident? Or is that too threatening?

Hmm....

Quite interesting indeed.

When I click on the links, they take me to the corresponding websites....

Maybe you have a virus on your computer??

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(March 12, 2014 at 4:37 pm)Deidre32 Wrote: While I appreciate this, discipulus, I don't need to turn to an interpreter to decipher the Bible. You believe in Jesus, well...remember he told his followers "let your yes mean yes and your no mean no?" Isn't it odd then that we need "Bible scholars" to translate the Bible for us mere laymen and women?

There are many members in the Body of Christ. Some have been called to be apologists. The sites I referred you to are apologetics sites, not translation sites.

(March 12, 2014 at 4:37 pm)Deidre32 Wrote: Or is it that we don't like what the Bible REALLY states, so we turn to a softer reflection of it so we can go on with our day?

I love the Bible, from the accounts of God creating life, to the accounts of God taking life. All of it is equally instructive to me.

(March 12, 2014 at 4:37 pm)Deidre32 Wrote: discipulus, it is possible to believe, and then not believe. All it means is I choose to live my life based in reality and not on fables and folklore, convincing myself (and others) that it's so much more.

That is your choice.

I also choose to live life based in reality and not on fables and folklore.

You're not better than me, discipulus.

(March 12, 2014 at 5:18 pm)Beccs Wrote: Anything that requires apologetics is fundamentally flawed.

I am going to give you a chance to retract that statement before I show you why it is ridiculous.

I will give you 24 hours to do so.

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(March 12, 2014 at 5:33 pm)Deidre32 Wrote: You're not better than me, discipulus.

I wholeheartedly agree with you.

(March 12, 2014 at 5:18 pm)Beccs Wrote:

(March 12, 2014 at 4:37 pm)Deidre32 Wrote: While I appreciate this, discipulus, I don't need to turn to an interpreter to decipher the Bible. You believe in Jesus, well...remember he told his followers "let your yes mean yes and your no mean no?" Isn't it odd then that we need "Bible scholars" to translate the Bible for us mere laymen and women?

Or is it that we don't like what the Bible REALLY states, so we turn to a softer reflection of it so we can go on with our day?

discipulus, it is possible to believe, and then not believe. All it means is I choose to live my life based in reality and not on fables and folklore, convincing myself (and others) that it's so much more.

Anything that requires apologetics is fundamentally flawed.

This hasn't been talked about much here, but religion has become a business. So many people earning a living, some with very high "earnings," off of preaching, interpreting and writing about nonsense.

Is this real life?

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(March 12, 2014 at 5:34 pm)discipulus Wrote:

(March 12, 2014 at 5:18 pm)Beccs Wrote: Anything that requires apologetics is fundamentally flawed.

I am going to give you a chance to retract that statement before I show you why it is ridiculous.

I will give you 24 hours to do so.

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(March 12, 2014 at 5:33 pm)Deidre32 Wrote: You're not better than me, discipulus.

I wholeheartedly agree with you.

Then you need to stop preaching to me. :/

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Have you read any of Francis Chan's books, discipulus? You might like him. Look him up on YouTube.

(March 12, 2014 at 5:35 pm)Deidre32 Wrote: Then you need to stop preaching to me. :/

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Have you read any of Francis Chan's books, discipulus? You might like him. Look him up on YouTube.

I am not preaching to you. And yes I am familiar with the man.

(March 12, 2014 at 5:34 pm)discipulus Wrote:

(March 12, 2014 at 5:18 pm)Beccs Wrote: Anything that requires apologetics is fundamentally flawed.

I am going to give you a chance to retract that statement before I show you why it is ridiculous.

I will give you 24 hours to do so.

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(March 12, 2014 at 5:33 pm)Deidre32 Wrote: You're not better than me, discipulus.

I wholeheartedly agree with you.

Oooohhh!

Why did I suddenly get the song "The Final Countdown" playing in my head?

If you have a counter argument. Present it now.

Don't play the dramatic card and certainly not the "I'm better than you because I believe" card.

Present your cards or fold.